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Posted by: Gheco ( )
Date: January 15, 2017 06:06PM

Joan Cusacks character certainly would.

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Posted by: Levi ( )
Date: January 15, 2017 06:08PM

Just found out about this show.

They had me at "that Christ Putz".

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Posted by: anonuk ( )
Date: January 15, 2017 07:16PM

In the british version, the dilemma of becoming a bigamist pops up in one of the episodes and frank visits the local mormon church for advice, only for two men to literally throw him out, and frank subsequently vowing to burn all his donny osmond records.

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Posted by: themaster ( )
Date: January 16, 2017 12:25AM

Love Shameless.

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Posted by: Dead Cat ( )
Date: January 16, 2017 10:11PM

Sure. The sledge-o-matic approach to solving problems seems to be the mormon way.

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Posted by: quatermass2 ( )
Date: January 17, 2017 07:25AM

Well, they lie, they deceive, they're lazy, they're intolerant, they're crafty, they're avaricious, they lie to the authorities of the Land to get and keep cash...

No, they wouldn't make good propective members.

But they'd make excellent GAs!

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Posted by: Gheco ( )
Date: January 21, 2017 03:40PM

quatermass2 Wrote:
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> Well, they lie, they deceive, they're lazy,
> they're intolerant, they're crafty, they're
> avaricious, they lie to the authorities of the
> Land to get and keep cash...
>
> No, they wouldn't make good propective members.
>
> But they'd make excellent GAs!


Elder L. Frank Gallegher presiding.

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Posted by: anonuk ( )
Date: January 17, 2017 01:32PM

In the british one, Frank spends most of his time getting high on illegal chemical substances, that's when he is not just plain drunk. He and all of his kids smoke pot and so do most of their neighbours on the estate. There was even an episode when the boys had an illegal farm in their attic (cannot do that in a trailer park).

Is the american one the same or is american culture not quite ready to laugh at the antics of the dregs of society who have no shame, don't work and don't care for 'proper' work and are nearly always high on some sort of substance, prescribed or otherwise?

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Posted by: CL2 ( )
Date: January 17, 2017 02:36PM

It is rather shocking for someone who grew up so mormon! But I love it.

I just asked my TBM daughter why she "liked" bring back Sheila on fb and she said she thinks it was just some site she must like anyway.

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Posted by: anonuk ( )
Date: January 17, 2017 03:43PM

If you ever get the chance, watch the british one - I have a feeling the american one is tame by comparison.

Most working class brits have lived on an estate like the one in Shameless and know and/or are related to folks like that - no class & no shame. It is very funny - very entertaining, although it is a dickensian description of what society becomes when socialists are in charge of education and handing out benefits: a welfare state breeds apathy and a socialist education where everyone is equal breeds more apathy. The devil makes work for idle hands, as the old saying goes. When people have no need to work, they loose the desire to complete an honest day's work for an honest day's pay. This train of thought led the creator to write shameless in the first place - he just took it to the extreme. Being long-term unemployed is a career choice in some parts of the UK.

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