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Posted by: Levi ( )
Date: January 10, 2017 04:52PM

This is war.

Good.

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Posted by: StillAnon ( )
Date: January 10, 2017 06:02PM

Good is right. This guy will be vilified by the LDS Inc. but he's doing what it takes. I hope his funding keeps up for his campaign.

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Posted by: ificouldhietokolob ( )
Date: January 10, 2017 06:18PM

The article says,

"It is rare for an entity to lose its tax-exempt status. Experts on the topic say the IRS has never stripped such status from a church."

They need better experts.

https://www.philanthropy.com/article/Appeals-Court-Says-IRS-Was/168591

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Posted by: StillAnon ( )
Date: January 10, 2017 07:18PM

Yes they do. Plus, if the church just paid property taxes on their temples, ward houses and office buildings (including temple square), Utah could fully fund education and health care.

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Posted by: donbagley ( )
Date: January 10, 2017 07:29PM

Tax LDS inc. I say.

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Posted by: StillAnon ( )
Date: January 10, 2017 08:46PM

Yes, and make them open their book for both church & business dealings.

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Posted by: kathleen ( )
Date: January 10, 2017 09:42PM

:)

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Posted by: azsteve ( )
Date: January 10, 2017 10:20PM

The flow of money creates specific behavior in people. Without financial disclosure, the mormon church is just a Secret Combination.

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Posted by: Tall Man, Short Hair ( )
Date: January 11, 2017 03:30PM

As a country, we're pretty committed to avoiding taxation without representation. If you tax them, you also need to allow them full participation in the political process.

Be careful what you wish for ...

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Posted by: Gheco ( )
Date: January 11, 2017 07:34PM

Tall Man, Short Hair Wrote:
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> As a country, we're pretty committed to avoiding
> taxation without representation. If you tax them,
> you also need to allow them full participation in
> the political process.
>
> Be careful what you wish for ...


We have an American state that is, and always has been, a religious theocracy.

They currently do have full and affluent participation in the political process.

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Posted by: Tall Man, Short Hair ( )
Date: January 11, 2017 09:53PM

Gheco Wrote:
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>
> We have an American state that is, and always has
> been, a religious theocracy.
>
> They currently do have full and affluent
> participation in the political process.


Is this your "I'm having some beers with the guys, and lets complain about the government" answer? If so, party on, Garth. If not, please help me see the light.

1. Which religion is the state religion? Where in our governing documents can we find the state religion identified?
2. Theocracies are led by the head of the state religion. Can you help me understand how our current or former presidents were priests or pontiffs of the state religion?
3. Can you provide me examples of where any church or religion has openly endorsed or funded a politician or their campaign? Why do our laws prohibit all tax-exempt religions from endorsing candidates if our government is a theocracy?
4. Can you let me know if you learned this in a school, and if so, what school? I've got a kid in college shopping for a graduate degree, and your school is a bit out of touch with reality.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/11/2017 09:54PM by Tall Man, Short Hair.

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Posted by: Gheco ( )
Date: January 11, 2017 11:05PM

Tall Man, Short Hair Wrote:
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> Gheco Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > We have an American state that is, and always
> has
> > been, a religious theocracy.
> >
> > They currently do have full and affluent
> > participation in the political process.
>
>
> Is this your "I'm having some beers with the guys,
> and lets complain about the government" answer? If
> so, party on, Garth. If not, please help me see
> the light.

It is not, I have not drank a beer, or any alcohol, in over 10 years.
>
> 1. Which religion is the state religion? Where in
> our governing documents can we find the state
> religion identified?

If you had read a little closer, you might have possibly noticed i stated AN American state, not THE American state. Of course Utah is a thecracy.

> 2. Theocracies are led by the head of the state
> religion. Can you help me understand how our
> current or former presidents were priests or
> pontiffs of the state religion?

Obviously Utah politicians are subject to rigorous Priesthood worthiness interviews, where LDS managements directs policy.

> 3. Can you provide me examples of where any church
> or religion has openly endorsed or funded a
> politician or their campaign? Why do our laws
> prohibit all tax-exempt religions from endorsing
> candidates if our government is a theocracy?

Openly being the key word. They are far too sinister for that.

> 4. Can you let me know if you learned this in a
> school, and if so, what school? I've got a kid in
> college shopping for a graduate degree, and your
> school is a bit out of touch with reality.

Do not send them to the one you went to.

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Posted by: Tall Man, Short Hair ( )
Date: January 11, 2017 11:30PM

Is Jackie Biskupski part of the secret cabal's scheme to throw people off the scent and further conceal the theocracy?

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Posted by: Gheco ( )
Date: January 12, 2017 12:24AM

Tall Man, Short Hair Wrote:
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> Is Jackie Biskupski part of the secret cabal's
> scheme to throw people off the scent and further
> conceal the theocracy?

Perhaps. There can be small pockets of protest in any theocracy.

Utah is a theocracy, and LDS Inc certainly carries a lot of clout in the federal government.

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Posted by: de ja vue ( )
Date: January 11, 2017 05:29PM

Too late. They already are performing the representation end of the equation and have been doing so for the decades spent on accumulating their wealth. Time to make them pay for their ill-gotten gains received from shaming and guilting the masses and ultimately personal lives by using political loop holes and bleeding the beast mentality.

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