Out of context, this advice works well for me :). I tend to doubt myself too much. In context...we all know it's a scheme lol.

Just don't doubt your faith. Idiot.

Excuse me? I don't know why you're being so rude. Obviously you didn't understand my post. I'm not going to spell it out for you. You'll have to figure it out yourself.

Obviously your being sensitive. My apologies. Or should I spell it out.

You called me an idiot. That's not me being sensitive, that's you being rude. You assumed my post was to be faith promoting. It wasn't. You act like I'm advocating for the church, when I was clearly making a joke at its expense. I'm not sure what your problem is.

Not you, the dork that made the statment. Ukdorf..

"Doubt your doubt before you doubt your faith".

Ok, thank you for clearing that up! I agree, he is an idiot!

Oh good. Back to my rock in a hat, without wifi. Idiot.

Cpete is sarcastic generally and didn't seem to mean you personally, but the sheep told to not doubt..lds devout.

I agree.

Do you doubt that Joseph Smith was a pedophile? Doubt your doubts.

But my doubts' doubts are themselves doubts, so should I doubt my doubts' doubts?

That's the way it goes. You're supposed to study and doubt only
in the direction of keeping your belief. Never actually carry
out the process in an open-minded way, that could lead you out
of the cult.

Doubt is what makes us search for truth. Using faith to suppress doubt causes inertia and kills curiosity. We need doubt when searching for truth or we never grow.

What I find interesting is that the church uses doubt to keep you fixed in place. Faith is necessary in order to act but not reason. I have to have faith that my search for truth will reveal something as yet undiscovered or there's no point in doing anything.

Faith in action but not in reasoning
Doubt when reasoning but not in action.

If you compare the church's stance on faith and doubt, you get doubt your doubt and the following.

Faith and doubt cannot exist in the same mind at the same time, for one will dispel the other. Thomas S. Monson

vs.

“If you would be a real seeker after truth, it is necessary that at least once in your life you doubt, as far as possible, all things.”
― René Descartes

Doubt is the greatest quality anyone could have. Doubt leads to greatness. Everything new is the result of doubt. Just ask Aristotle...Critical thinking cures fear.

By the way, I don't know that you're not an idiot. You might be, but I doubt it. I'm just saying.

Then shouldn't I doubt the doubt I have about my doubts? And then doubt those doubts, and on an on and on...

hmm. Nah, I doubt it.

The best advice I was ever given was on the first day of grad school...

"Question everything!"

"The secret to happiness is to never tell a lie that can be proven a lie."
--Judic West, Nottingham Archer

JS instinctively knew this. His successors, not so much.

Dieter the doubt-doubter sells the simpleton's simplicity.

He's Alfred E. Neuman with better teeth.

If you're not Mormon, doubting your doubts is okay.

In fact, it's GOOD. And it's also okay to APOSTATIZE.

All converts to Mormonism are doubters and apostates.



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I don't doubt tscc is false. In fact, I know it's true - it IS false!

M@t

I think he said "Doubt your doubts BEFORE you doubt your faith."

That is exactly what I did. I doubted my doubts first. Then I did more reading and studying, and BOOM. I finally got the courage to doubt my faith.

When building fortifications, never doubt your redoubts.