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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: May 25, 2016 03:13PM

My TBM son-in-law seems to be upping the ante on FB regarding getting messages out. The fact that he has fathered three of my grandsons and that they are 12, 16 & 19 might have something to do with today's message.

The 18 year old entered the MTC in Feb. of 2015, and left a couple of days later. His mom has told me twice he was going back, but he's missed both of her projected return dates. And he has added a line to his FB profile, stating that he is crazy and all must deal with it.

Anyway, here's the link to the Sons of Helaman FB page. It's a trip done a corridor of mental aberration. It sad...

https://www.facebook.com/sonsofh/?fref=nf

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Posted by: gettinreal ( )
Date: May 25, 2016 03:20PM

That link pisses me off.
Gotta create the dragon first before you can slay it. Otherwise known as a straw man. Fucking cult.
Anyone know of ANY other church that is as obsessed with porn is LDS Corp™?

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Posted by: presleynfactsrock ( )
Date: May 25, 2016 03:54PM

The pressure placed on teens to serve missions, I've said, and will say it again, is abusive. I feel for your grandson that he believes he needs to give a reason why he left the MTC. Just leaving should be enough, all that is needed.

But no, the mormon gossip mill runs rampant and puts the pressure on big time. Plus all his past indoctrination puts the pressure on.

I will be hoping that he can find the strength to search for the truth about the cult he is in.

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Posted by: midwestanon ( )
Date: May 25, 2016 03:58PM

Did you read the cost for this? I assumed it was free, like any ARP group is. It's 100$ for the initial session, and 45$ for each additional group therapy season (1 hour 45 mins.) you can also sign up for 'Text Therapy', and get spammed with dozens of anti-masturbation and pornography messages daily for only 15$ a month!

It's a fucking rip off. Pay to receive incorrect information and be further indoctrinated in the mormon cult and received medically and scientifically incorrect messages about the dangers of masturbation and pornography. This guy, Maurice Harker, should have his license revoked. I hope he gets hate mail.

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Posted by: Gentle Gentile ( )
Date: May 25, 2016 04:06PM

Yet they're offended when people confuse them with Scientologists.

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Posted by: donbagley ( )
Date: May 25, 2016 04:11PM

That's no way to heal a man.

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Posted by: blueorchid ( )
Date: May 25, 2016 04:12PM

A verse for your grandson.


King James 2000 Bible
You will show me the path of life: in your presence is fullness of joy; at your right hand there are pleasures forevermore.


It is disgusting that the church insists on taking one of the most natural and personal parts of ones life and dragging it out into the town square for everyone to see, weigh in on, and judge.

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: May 25, 2016 04:12PM

Can they cure ingrown nails?

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: May 25, 2016 04:50PM

can they cure dental disease,vision problems, or hearing loss?

neither are covered by medicare...

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Posted by: CL2 ( )
Date: May 25, 2016 05:17PM

and went to Son's of Helaman. Happy to say he has left the lds church and, after struggling for years with all the guilt and hell they put him through, couldn't seem to pull his act together, he just got his master's degree.

I took note it says "counseling and MENTAL HEALTH" on their fb page.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/25/2016 05:18PM by cl2.

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Posted by: nbhabrlrcr ( )
Date: May 25, 2016 05:18PM

Wouldn't this "Sons of Helaman" fall outside of the Church Handbook guidelines on self-help/self-awareness groups? Being charged and what not?

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Posted by: happydecemberween ( )
Date: May 25, 2016 07:30PM

I have tried the laying on of hands countless times to cure my masturbation habit. Always seems to make things harder....

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Posted by: midwestanon ( )
Date: May 25, 2016 08:24PM

In your case you might make an exception for the whole women not having the priesthood thing, and get a comely young women to have a nice laying on of hands blessing...

mmm, that's nice....

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Posted by: exldsdudeinslc ( )
Date: May 25, 2016 10:04PM

My ex wife made me go to this fuck her and fuck that org.

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Posted by: midwestanon ( )
Date: May 25, 2016 10:14PM

I lived with my cousin for a couple of months one summer. He had had his struggles with the church and wasn't a particularly active mormon (I got the impression he and his wife were mostly cultural mormons- didn't really care too much for the doctrine and all that). Anyway, he told me he had had 'problems' with pornography (I think he was trying to relate to me and my problems with drugs), and he said he and his wife came to an agreeable solution; his wife told him if he ever felt the urge to look at porn, to let her know and they would have sex.

As awkward as that was to hear, I have to say that's a much more effective 'cure' than some bullshit 'Sons of Helaman' group therapy of blubbery twits. I understand that more sex isn't necessarily always a cure for a pornography 'addiction', but I got the impression it worked well for him.

I also get the impression that when mormon women hear that their husbands have been viewing pornography, they are so disgusted they don't ever want to have sex. I wonder if they understand how their rejection might be causing the problem to continue? This is just based off of stories I have read online, like the one about the women who found out her husband had a problem with pornography, and she says 'my first instinct was to immediately divorce him.' Yea, not extreme in the slightest, thanks Ldsinc. for indoctrinating women on how pornography is worse than hitler,.

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Posted by: poopstone ( )
Date: May 26, 2016 05:01AM

anyone notice the obvious slant towards the male sex in this? females are into porn too aren't they? If we have sons of Helaman why isn't there the "daughters of Delilah" or something similar?

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Posted by: axeldc ( )
Date: May 26, 2016 07:28AM

That's what 50 Shades and other trash novels are for.

I know this is gross stereotyping, but women are more likely to read porn than men, whereas men like more visual porn.

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Posted by: axeldc ( )
Date: May 26, 2016 07:27AM

They are gaslighting Mormon boys and girls by making a sin out of normal adolescent behavior. If you are not sexual active, then any sexually mature human needs to clean out the pipes. Because it is so pleasurable, religious wags think it must be sinful. They browbeat and guilt trip young people for doing what comes naturally to them.

Humans become sexually mature around 13, but modern society tell you to wait 10 years to wed. Male sexuality peaks at 19 and slowly declines from there. It is ridiculous to tell guys to white knuckle it until marriage, and then to use missionary position as your only sexual outlet. It leads to bad marriage decisions and poor marital sex lives. Worst of all, it leads to a burden of guilt that scars your psyche just so some old white dudes can control you.

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Posted by: goodlyexmormon ( )
Date: May 26, 2016 09:52AM

But can they cure prostate cancer?

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