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I am at a loss for words. The thousands that are coming into my mind from this picture are swirling around in my head painfully.

Edit: The new Subject show the gist of the photo posted above.

I can't believe Mormon believe their church is...well, I can believe that they believe that Mormons running the government would be a vast improvement. I bet they don't know any Mormons employed by their church in high places.



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and they sure do not want to lose their tax exemptions !

Well, damn!

So... If mormons would give 20% or 25%, the world would become the Garden of Eden! Not to mention every stake having its own temple!

And everyone could drive Cadillacs. (Harold B. Lee reference)

" I would be willing to let every Negro drive a Cadillac if they could afford it." -- Mark E. Petersen

My bad. It was Peterson and not Lee.

Dupes are not known for wisdom.

They do realize that "Mormon" federal employees would have to work for free...right?

Duh.

And where would their tithes come from?

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That's true if you're one of the little 15 or one of their family members. Not so much for anyone else.

So I don't get it.

The 15 get more wealth to spend on themselves from the members than they do in tax breaks from the feds?

Right?

What exactly do Mormons get out of 10%? The government builds roads, schools, libraries, airports, hospitals, etc. They inspect food, develop vaccines, protect borders, manage forests, police your neighborhood, and put out fires. They provide old age pensions, medical care, unemployment insurance, disability payments.

What material benefits do Mormons get from the church for their flat tax with no deductions? The church can't even clean its own buildings or pay its clergy. They do less with 10% than churches who get a fraction of that. Most of the money is poured into investments, not welfare for the members.

The government provides public budgets; the church hides its money even from those who fund it.

The Mormon Navy, Air Force, Army, Marines. What a joke.

I don't see how this is possible to know since everything financial with the EVIL CULT is secret [Oh I mean sacred!] Whatever.

Of course it's true. Just today I was driving my car down Joseph Smith Highway that Mormons built and drove by a Mormon grade school, Junior High, and High School right after I drove over Parley Pratt Bridge. I noticed the Mormon Police car out there that was making sure people were obeying the speed limit. Meanwhile, there was a wreck, and the Mormon fire department raced by to give medical help to those involved. The crash involved a bus of the Mormon Transportation District, and a truck from the Mormon Sanitation Department that was hauling garbage to Apostate Dump. Those hurt were taken to the Mormon Regional Hospital.

After leaving the scene of the accident, I stopped at the Emma Smith Library to check out some books. Right outside was a collection box for the Mormon mail service where I mailed in my payment on the student loan the Mormon Church had given me. On the other side of the street was the Outer Darkness Prison, where they lock up all the lawbreakers. I'm glad they decided not to put the Prison near the new Thomas S. Monson Park. I'm excited to visit the new Gordon B. Hinckley monkey exhibit at the zoo there.

It's too bad they are having to replace the sewer pipes out in front, as it makes getting into the park hard. I so glad that Mormons are so generous, as I would hate to have to go back to using an outhouse. All the streets are nice and bright from all the city street lights, which cuts down on crime. Even if there is a crime, at least we can take pride in the way Mormons finance the Court system to make sure that all laws of the Constitution are followed.

It looks like rain. I wonder what the Mormon Weather Service has predicted, and whether we need to worry about flash flooding. If so, I'm sure the Mormon alert system will go into action of everyone calling ten names on their list.

I feel secure going to bed every night, knowing that the Mormon Army, Navy, and Air Force are here 24 hours a day to keep me safe.

I am so glad for Mormons, as without them, all these things we take for granted everyday would disappear.

Yeah, I love how they can claim this when the government publishes their financial statements and the LDS Church doesn't.

Many Mormons are just downright stupid. But, of course, they have to be to give a significant portion of their time and money to an obvious fraud built on lies and gross misrepresentations.

Templar Wrote:
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> Many Mormons are just downright stupid.



There will be a percentage of dumb in any population, but, the bluntness of your statement caused me to consider another aspect.

Totalitarian regimes tend to quash or drive out the best an brightest as treasonous or heretic. Dictators surround themselves with "yes" men, possibly just smart enough to never say "no," but dumb enough to let the kingdom fail. They are systems doomed from within, from the top.

It really doesn't matter that there are a passel of them, because they all clamor for favor from those above them, by following the lack-luster, often idiotic, dictates of the leader (or leaders, acting in concert).

They hire PR and legal, but they seem as hamstrung as Hitler's generals. They must act within the confines of a diseased system. They are - forced to wait at Dunkirk while the boats keep coming.

Just wanted to share a cheery thought on "downright stupid."

When's the last time the LDS Church funded any of the following?

1. Road Construction
2. Fire Department
3. Police Department
4. Public Education
5. Military
6. Homeless Shelter

Wow, that's annoying. A couple things come to mind.

The government actually pays their employees. Paid labor is more expensive than slave labor.

Members give more than 10%. They also pay fast offerings, and are assigned to scrub toilets. They also have to pay for their kids activities like camps and missions.


Things the church provides it's members:

1. Churches
2. Temples
3. Manuals for teachers
4. Bishops storehouse

Things the US and State governments provides it's citizens.

1. Military protection.
2. Police and fire protection.
3. Roads and bridges.
4. Elementary and high school education.
5. Medicaide, Medicare, Social Security
6. Public Parks
7. Public Libraries.
8. NASA
9. Regulate food, drugs, and water quality.
10. Funding and research into new technologies, like the Internet.

I'm sure there are more. I think we can all agree that the government can run far more efficiently, but even with that, for me I get far more bang for my buck with my taxes than I ever did paying tithing and the government doesn't make me scrub their toilets for the privilege of living in this country.

I was helping an old friend with a new tablet his kids got him - he was trying to download church movies he needed for his Aaronic priesthood lesson and he was complaining that they don't provide PRINTED materials anymore but tell you to get it all off the website. If that is true, then that would mean that members are having to spend their own money to print pages from manuals at home now too.

anon90. I believe i is only in USA that the church provides a bishop's storehouse. If you live anywhere else you are subject to the bishop lottery instead. If you are a widow you should be ok, we all know how much Pres M loves a widow. If you are an evil harlot divorcee female or unmarried then you do not deserve food/welfare of any kind and would better serve the church by silently starving to atone for your sins of being single/divorced or a child of a single or divorced person. If you are gay then...oh sorry there are no homosexuals in the church...

Since WHEN does the gov't get 50% ?

Most of my working life.

Federal, state, local, sales, excise, single.

It's hands down the largest chunk I pay.

scarecrowfromoz said it best.

What Mormons forget when they start to do fuzzy math is that all of the labor they get from members; clergy, cleaning, and missionary work, is free.

What a joke!

Another example of fuzzy Mormon math is when they count every member who has ever been baptized until their 120th birthday. I don't know of many people who live to be that old, but a person who does at 80 is counted for another 40 years as a member. Interesting, isn't it? With all their bragging about genealogy and family history, they can't manage to remove a member who has passed away.

T-Bone

I'd heard it was to 105 yrs, and only then for the inactive / unknown location, no ward membership types.


Certainly after joe/jane active dies they aren't counted.... Right?



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I believe it is 110.

I'm scratching my head here in Seattle, trying to figure out what the Mormon 10% pays for. I know the "Seattle" temple is over there in Bellevue where the angel Maccoron-I presides over the Eastgate I90 interchange. I guess they paid for that.

Meanwhile, I think the Catholics are paying for this: http://ccsww.convio.net/site/PageServer?pagename=services_index . I searched for a similar list of Mormon services that would be financed by that dang 10%, but I just couldn't seem to find one.