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Posted by: pamelapotrey ( )
Date: August 28, 2015 05:08PM

a sweet little toddler & little boy , and then became horrible ?

Okay........
My reasoning for even approaching this ridiculous question is : Most of our kids were the sweetest , most loving babies & toddlers and even a few years into the elementary years.
THENNNNNN...........teenage , arrogant , always right , letting the rest of us all know we were a bunch of A**Holes, and pointing out every one ELSE's faults but gawd help you if you bring up THEIRS !!! One of our daughters is putting us through this HELLL NOW. ( Noooo...this isn't the first time. It's just her whole entire life when we think she's going to start being a decent human being & we all get excited, Her evil , B*t*ch side comes right out and helps us realize what big fools / idiots that we are. )

I know that Heavenly Father had to kick Lucifer out of Heaven because Lucifer wanted to overthrow Heavenly Father and have us all ' kissing his ass for eternity & make sure we all stayed in hell'.
But I bet Heavenly Mother misses that sweet wee infant and toddler and the sweet memories---if there be any , with Lucifer.

Okay......Thanks for reading this & listening. I will try not to be so darned gullible with our daughter any more because when I do , it's like she's pouring salt into an open wound. It really hurts.

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Posted by: Exanonmo ( )
Date: August 28, 2015 05:19PM

Do you have 15 kids?

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Posted by: pamelapotrey ( )
Date: August 28, 2015 08:27PM

Exanonmo Wrote:
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> Do you have 15 kids?

Yes. We do. 5 are adopted. 10 of our children are adults and 5 are teenagers. ( I really just needed to 'vent' when I started this topic.) We've had other kid challenges. This DD is just extremely smart & manipulative !! ( And you'd think we'd learn after this many kids, RIGHT ?!!! ) Never , EVER a dull moment at our house. When all of our kids were little. Every single kid within a mile range wanted to be at our house cause they'd all have such a blast. There's been SOOOO many kids from our ward BEG to come & live at our house. Whenever our kids get in trouble...the whole entire bunch has to do community service. It's a great motivator for kids not to get into trouble when they ALLLL have to pay the consequences !

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Posted by: smirkorama ( )
Date: August 28, 2015 05:31PM

I was about the most submissive and compliant teen ager / person that ever existed, but after so many years of having toxic MORmON garbage jammed down my throat, I finally had to put away the nice guy me because the MORmONS were so sure that I was really just a dumb guy who could be used at any time as a trash can. Now they get to deal with Mr. BIG TIME @$$hole - a personality that they so thoroughly tutored me on and so unwittingly facilitated coming into being. I am leaving them alone!!!! -the very same way that they left me alone!!!

MORmONS do not like to be treated the same way that MORmONS treat others.

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Posted by: Heresy ( )
Date: August 28, 2015 07:55PM

If coming to earth and passing all these obedience tests is so damned important for a Mormon, why were Jesus and lucifer making important decisions for others in heaven? They hadn't even lived yet, like God had. Why couldn't he figure out our earthly rules without asking a couple of totally inexperienced kids?

Do parents let toddlers make budget decisions?

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Posted by: madalice ( )
Date: August 28, 2015 08:37PM

Great question. Stan still gets to have his way. He was made ruler of the water. Water sure does a lot of good for being controlled by Stan himself. The mormons use water for sacrament and baptism. Think about that for a minute.

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Posted by: pamelapotrey ( )
Date: August 28, 2015 09:29PM

madalice Wrote:
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> Great question. Stan still gets to have his way.
> He was made ruler of the water. Water sure does a
> lot of good for being controlled by Stan himself.
> The mormons use water for sacrament and baptism.
> Think about that for a minute.

VERY insightful , Madalice !!!! Was it JosMITH who decided
the sacrament should be with water instead of wine ??

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Posted by: baura ( )
Date: August 28, 2015 08:44PM

Lucifer never came to earth and got born and received a body.

So he was never a little boy.

Which brings up the question of when Mother in Heaven pops out a
spirit baby is it small and immature and needs to be raised by
its heavenly parents?

If 1/3 of the "hosts of heaven" got eternal damnation right off
the bat, Heavenly Father and Heavenly Mother must be HORRIBLE
parents.

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Posted by: pamelapotrey ( )
Date: August 28, 2015 09:29PM

baura Wrote:
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> Lucifer never came to earth and got born and
> received a body.
>
> So he was never a little boy.
>
> Which brings up the question of when Mother in
> Heaven pops out a
> spirit baby is it small and immature and needs to
> be raised by
> its heavenly parents?
>
> If 1/3 of the "hosts of heaven" got eternal
> damnation right off
> the bat, Heavenly Father and Heavenly Mother must
> be HORRIBLE
> parents.

Makes one wonder , doesn't it !!

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Posted by: Texas Sue ( )
Date: August 29, 2015 08:26AM

I'm sure the Tooth Fairy's parents wondered the same thing about her. On a more serious note, if you think your daughter's behavior is beyond normal teenage rebellion/hormones, you may need to find a good psychologist and test her for borderline personality disorder. Some of your comments raised some red flags. Good luck!

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Posted by: Zero ( )
Date: August 29, 2015 10:52AM

So why again does lucifer have such a bad rap??

The "Good Guy Luicifer" meme really made me look at him in a better light.


http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/good-guy-lucifer/photos


Makes you think!

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Posted by: tig ( )
Date: August 29, 2015 10:56AM

Wait...you think "Lucifer". Is a real person....lol.

Please carry on.

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