Donald would be a perfect fit. He knows all about real estate. He knows all about having multiple women. He knows all about getting people to hand over their money. He knows all about being worshiped and how to get attention.
The only thing he'd need to change is the WoW. I'm thinking there would be a lot of mormons that would welcome change and clarity on that subject.
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I watched one episode of The Apprentice, where Donald didn't drink alcohol with the group at dinner. He said that he doesn't touch the stuff. Looks like it's the perfect fit after all!
SOP for the Mormon church is that the senior apostle becomes the next prophet upon the death of the current one. However, I think that the membership of the church would accept whomever the body of the apostles appointed. It would get interesting, however, if there were a dispute that couldn't be resolved internally among the apostles and it went public. I think in that case the membership would follow the voice of the majority of the apostles. What would happen in a fifty-fifty split? I think the membership would go with whichever side the senior apostle were on. All this is just speculation on my part and there may be legal directives already codified within the bylaws of the Corporation that would determine the fate of the church in the case of disharmony among the apostles.
But I don't think that a "coup," per se, is at all likely (or even possible) with the way the Mormon church hierarchy is currently structured.
I think there is only one Sole in LDS Inc. that could do a damned thing about anything and he is handled so thoroughly that there isn't a damned thing any other apostle could do.
The best they could do is start their own cult and the few that have tried in the distant past were dismal failures.
Elder Berry Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I think there is only one Sole in LDS Inc. that > could do a damned thing about anything and he is > handled so thoroughly that there isn't a damned > thing any other apostle could do. > > The best they could do is start their own cult and > the few that have tried in the distant past were > dismal failures.
Obviously you have not seen the season finale of Game of Thrones.
Much like the ending of the "Sole" leadership of Saddam Hussien or Khadaffi, the "Sole" is not always the final decision maker.
I suppose that it is possible for the first person in line to "voluntarily" step aside and let the next person have it --- or the next, again with a "voluntary" abdication, as it were --- or however long it takes until Oaks gets the job. Which is where I'd see that little game find its ultimate goal.
Also, I would love to see Walmart or Costco buy out TSCC. Then everyone would be happy to go to church on Sundays....
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peculiargifts Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I suppose that it is possible for the first person > in line to "voluntarily" step aside and let the > next person have it --- or the next, again with a > "voluntary" abdication, as it were --- or however > long it takes until Oaks gets the job.
I believe the "continuing revelation" thing will prevent this from ever happening. They would have to admit they aren't as prophetic as Joseph Smith and why would God allow that for his prophet like unto Moses?
southern Idaho inactive Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > What if the morg spilts into other different > cults/ churches instead!??? Is that even > possible???
A long dragged out war among the top insiders would be the best possible things to happen.
It would be ugly, because the negotiations of which side get which assets might be leaked to the world.
At one time the apostle that had been an apostle the longest was next in line. Problem was there were apostles running around that were never mdmbers of the 12. So "rule change errrrr revelation " an one needed to be a member of the 12 to be in line for president.
This affected certain members of the first presidency under Brigham Young such as John Young and Daniel Wells.
On other occasions "rule change/revelation " and suddenly certain apostles were demoted in seniority. Namely Orson Hyde and Orson Pratt.
There was seniority jockeying between Joseph F Smith and Brigham Young Jr. In 1869 Young was listed senior to Smith. In 1900 the roles were reversed making Smith Senior and eventually president.
Also there is precedent that anyone that is a high priest or higher can be called to the first presidency. The number of councillors is not limited to 2. So younger or more capable men could be placed in a position of power without marching through the ranks.
Yes, like if the presiding bishop was made an apostle and first presidency member, with the bishop's office as his portfolio. Boom shakalaka, de facto profit.
I think black smoke should be coming out of the temple on SLC when the new cult pope is chosen.... or I'll just take the black smoke without any reason...
Not in the sense of an outsider taking over the church. Mormon coups occur when the prophet gets senile and the apostles struggle for who will run things in his absence.
Ideally, the prophet should be replaced or his counsellors should run the church instead of him or the Q12 should take control. But as you know, Hinckley took the reins when Kimball was still prophet and then ran the church for decades. It didn't really matter who the prophet was, since they were too old to care and Hinckley just stayed in control.
My reading of the tea leaves is that there is a struggle right now between Uchdorf and any allies he might have and Ballard's faction. Ballard is constantly jumping in front of the cameras, asserting control over the Prop 8 battle, engineering the recent excommunications, etc. He even did the Sabbath video last week.
This is all subtle stuff, of course, but it is not unprecedented. Quiet power struggles happen all the time in the upper reaches of most one-party states, including Russia and probably even North Korea. Names and titles don't change, just the people who wield predominant power. I don't think there is any question that Ballard is doing far more than his rank in the Q12 would justify.