shopping with her mom Lois at Cactus & Tropicals in Sugarhouse. Did she have a baby? She was holding a baby girl who looked to be 6-8 months old.

Congrats to you I guess. For seeing what's her name that is.



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I heard her on radio a couple months ago but tuned in late, so didn't know it was her at first; I swear I thought she was from a foreign country because her accent was so....weird.

Where in Utah is she from?!

A mix of two countrys' accents/languages can yield unusual results sometimes.

I have never heard that she had a baby, so this is news to me. She is quite high profile, too, as she speaks at events regarding child safety and missing children.

Not sure, but this article from a year ago says they weren't planning on starting a family yet:

http://www.people.com/people/mobile/article/0,,20815311,00.html

An article in People Magazine dated a year ago stated she wanted to start a family, but inferred she was not pregnant at the time of the interview.

If you saw her with a 6-8 month infant, it seems the timing would be "off".

In any case, if she gave birth to a baby, I would think the press would be all over the story -- or an adoption.

Oops, someone beat me to the punch.



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In her human trafficking speech, she mentioned the church crap about her primary value was her virtue... After being abducted and raped, she wondered why she should go back, she didn't have any value anymore. Heart wrenching. Thanks, LDS Inc.

Did she meet her Scottish? Irish? husband at school? Her family has very strong Utah accents...

I'm glad she lived, and is willing to speak out and help other people, when she could very well not ever speak of her trauma, justifiably so.

No, she met him while on a mission in France.

I would think if she did have a baby, she'd do everything in her power not to let that out to the press.

Why tempt fate?

She wants to keep a low profile. She didn't ask to be thrust into the limelight. Her children's privacy I imagine she'd guard with her life.

I can't tell you how I know Ms. Smart, but can assure you that the child is hers.

well good! Congratulations to her and her hubby!

The Elizabeth Smart story reminds me of how far the world has come. (the real world, not the mormon world...)

In 1955 Herman Wouk wrote a very good read, Marjorie Morningstar, which was later made into a movie. Marjorie wanted to be an actress and when she finished college, she started going to auditions. She fell in with a 'fast crowd' and eventually had a couple of affairs. She finally gave up on her dream and returned to Long Island, and into the 'normal' social scene. She met an accountant and they began dating and eventually he proposed to her.

Before answering the question, she confessed to him that she was not a virgin. He was stunned and there was a pause. But then he said, (paraphrasing) "It's okay, I'll marry you anyway..." But she could tell that it had effected him.

The narrator visits her years later, at her posh Long Island house and Marjorie has become her mother, acting nothing like the budding actress he'd known years and years earlier.

I've never forgotten that scene... "I'll marry you anyway..."
It pretty much describes the absurdity that was Victorian sexuality.

I was acquainted with a woman who told this story about herself: she met her husband when he was 22 and she was 16. The age of consent in their state was 18. They did EVERYTHING you can imagine sexually except he would not insert tab A into Slot A-1,or Slot A-2. By the time she reached 17-1/2, my acquaintance was far more sexual than Marjorie, but Marjorie was technically used goods, while my acquaintance would have passed technical muster with Queen Victoria.

The physical act of sex, Tab A into Slot A, only means what you want it to mean. It can be as impersonal as shaking hands or as meaningful as a covenant. Elizabeth Smart's tormentor took nothing from her; virtue, if it exists, can't be taken, it can only be given. And the fact that Spencer W. Kimball couldn't see that is an indictment of his total disconnection from goodness and honesty. If there were a ghawd, he could share a cab with Spencer and Spencer wouldn't recognize ghawd.

Religion's involvement with the vagina is a pure horror.

I read "Marjorie Morningstar" many years ago. The ending of the book broke my heart. And yes, the bit about "I'll marry you anyway", is so awful.

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Me too. I hope she got some good counseling after her

horrid experience but I have a feeling she didn't.

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And I wish her the best as well...

...she can have no idea how often I do wish her all good things...and a satisfying, happy life for her and for everyone she loves.

Is she living in Scotland or in the U.S.? How nice that she has a baby now.

I cannot tell you my connection to Elizabeth Smart, but I can assure you that the baby is hers and her husband's.

I cannot tell you my connection to Elizabeth Smart, but can assure you the baby is her's and her husband's and is not adopted.

Can you speak to the issue of her devotion to la iglesia mormona?

45 years ago (or thereabouts), I saw Maxwell Smart.

Can you speak to the issue of his devotion to Barbara Feldman?

Sadly, no. Those types of things were unknown to me at that tender age. But it was a lot of fun playing on the Get Smart sound stage.