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Posted by: bradley ( )
Date: April 01, 2015 09:58AM

I've had an epiphany. All this time, I've had time all wrong. Owing time, being owed time, time as a commodity. Mormonism even had me doing hard time.

The Rolling Stones are right about time:

"Time can tear down a building or destroy a woman's face
Hours are like diamonds, don't let them waste"

But what I didn't get was that the eternal now is an ocean of time. The power of love is how we tap into this endless ocean, so all of the clawing for time has been a little silly on my part. All I had to do was open up and accept the infinity of now. What if Now and Love are the same thing?

It could mean that I'm not really time's bitch. I'm not a slave to time, but its master, if I go within to the love space. Wise men of old said, "Free your mind and your ass will follow". I think its corollary is "Free your heart and your mind will follow".

So many people are in shackles but they hold the keys in their hands. Or rather, their hearts. Life is here to show them that.

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Posted by: michaelm (not logged in) ( )
Date: April 01, 2015 10:01AM


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Posted by: Darren Steers ( )
Date: April 01, 2015 10:45AM

This is what I think of when the subject of time comes along-

Pink Floyd - Time

Ticking away the moments that make up a dull day
Fritter and waste the hours in an off-hand way
Kicking around on a piece of ground in your home town
Waiting for someone or something to show you the way

Tired of lying in the sunshine staying home to watch the rain
You are young and life is long and there is time to kill today
And then one day you find ten years have got behind you
No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun

And you run and you run to catch up with the sun but it's sinking
Racing around to come up behind you again
The sun is the same in a relative way, but you're older
Shorter of breath and one day closer to death

Every year is getting shorter, never seem to find the time
Plans that either come to naught or half a page of scribbled lines
Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way
The time is gone, the song is over, thought I'd something more to say

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Posted by: jpt ( )
Date: April 01, 2015 10:52AM

That's what comes to my mind, too.

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Posted by: donbagley ( )
Date: April 01, 2015 12:19PM

Far away across the field
The tolling of the iron bell
Calls the faithful to their knees
To hear the softly spoken magic spell

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Posted by: torturednevermo ( )
Date: April 01, 2015 12:40PM

That 'Time' ending is a reprise of the song 'Breathe'.

I do both those songs in my Pink Floyd show, starting with 'Time', and going straight into all of 'Breathe', but I start out 'Breathe' with a drawn out synth solo over the Em-A vamp before I come in with the vocals.

'Breathe'

Breathe, breathe in the air
Don't be afraid to care
Leave but don't leave me
Look around and choose your own ground

For long you live and high you fly
And smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry
And all you touch and all you see
Is all your life will ever be

Run, rabbit, run
Dig that hole, forget the sun,
And when at last the work is done
Don't sit down, it's time to dig another one

For long you live and high you fly
But only if you ride the tide
And balanced on the biggest wave
You race toward an early grave.


My buddy says he dislikes that last line.
I think it's just a metaphor for 'no fear'.
Floyd's da bomb! Thanks bradley.

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Posted by: Beth ( )
Date: April 01, 2015 12:42PM


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Posted by: thingsithink ( )
Date: April 01, 2015 04:37PM

Where can we hear it - especially the solo

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Posted by: torturednevermo ( )
Date: April 01, 2015 06:08PM

I don't really do a you tube channel or anything. My guitar player sometimes hangs up a mike in the clubs we play at and makes reference recordings to listen back to. Maybe I should get something from him and throw it up online sometime (no video though, it's just .mp3's) The best recordings have come from one particular club, because the soundman there did a tour working on sound with Floyd, and he gets it just right.

I don't want to share what city I live in because of what I share on here about my neighbors. But if I did, I'm sure there are several lurkers here that would be from my locale. I'll see if I can get something up online some day, and I'll let you know. We do a killer version of 'shine on you crazy diamond' ... the whole fifteen minute version, with all the strings and organs and synth's and the whole bit. Also, my guitar player is a Gilmour freak. He sounds just like him.

I'll work on it. The guitar player is fussy though, that's probably why there isn't anything online as of yet. I may have to beat him up and steal his little digital recorder from him. :)

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Posted by: rups ( )
Date: April 01, 2015 01:15PM

I wasted my time till time wasted me. - savatage, from the "streets" album.

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: April 01, 2015 01:20PM

For whom the bell tolls
Time marches on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg92QpjRcJk

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Posted by: torturednevermo ( )
Date: April 01, 2015 01:38PM

And then there's the tear jerker song by Cat Stevens about being in the moment (or not).

'Cat's in the Cradle'

My son turned ten just the other day
He said, "Thanks for the ball, Dad, come on let's play
Can you teach me to throw?" I said, "Not today
I got a lot to do", he said, "That's okay"

And he walked away but his smile never dimmed
And said, "Im gonna be like him, yeah
You know Im going to be like him"

And the cats in the cradle and the silver spoon
Little boy blue and the man in the moon
When you comin' home, Dad, I don't know when
But we'll get together then
You know we'll have a good time then

..................

And as I hung up the phone it had occurred to me
He'd grown up just like me
My boy was just like me

And the cats in the cradle and the silver spoon
Little boy blue and the man in the moon
When you comin' home, son, I don't know when
But we'll get together then, Dad
We're gonna have a good time then




That song sort of says,

'life's to short to waste on callings for the church...'

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Posted by: foundoubt nli ( )
Date: April 02, 2015 08:27PM

Not cat stevens, I think it was harry chapin.

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Posted by: torturednevermo ( )
Date: April 02, 2015 08:37PM

You are right. Good catch. Harry Chapin wrote it, both him and Stevens recorded it, among others too I'm sure. :)

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: April 01, 2015 04:02PM

Does anyone here wonder whether we'll be held accountable in the hereafter, for how we spend our time here on earth? I wonder sometimes. For example, if spending too much time on the Internet will be a strike against me when I cross over?

Or time just to be, and ponder the meaning of our lives? Some introspection is healthy, and necessary for growing in spirit.

Time is something we can't take back or make more of. What we have is all there is, and there isn't any more where it came from, except to be given another day - which is a gift - of time. Makes up the moments of our lives until it's gone.

If we had it to do all over again, what could we do differently? If the past, present and future are always with us, our lives on a spectrum would be the same, all things being equal.

Time just keeps marching forward. For all the things we might have influence over, time isn't one of them. But *how* we use our time *is*.

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Posted by: dydimus ( )
Date: April 01, 2015 04:12PM


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Posted by: Shummy ( )
Date: April 01, 2015 04:13PM


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Posted by: torturednevermo ( )
Date: April 01, 2015 04:25PM

Wow Shummy. I thought only I listened to The Alan Parsons Project. Love that song.

This thread got me thinking about Salvador Dalí and his melting watches, too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Persistence_of_Memory

I thought this was cute:

“Asked by Ilya Prigogine whether this was in fact the case, Dalí replied that the soft watches were not inspired by the theory of relativity, but by the surrealist perception of a Camembert melting in the sun.[4]”

Also see,

https://www.google.ca/search?q=salvador+dali+watch&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=AVEcVbqoIoffsAS8wYHABg&ved=0CCoQ7Ak&biw=853&bih=383

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Posted by: torturednevermo ( )
Date: April 01, 2015 04:31PM

Here Shummy, another of my fave Alan Parsons songs ... it also reflects on 'time' in a way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4HI1_LTWIk

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: April 02, 2015 12:02AM


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Posted by: Shummy ( )
Date: April 01, 2015 04:33PM

Time is a river indeed, tnm.

After the musical high water mark of the 60s, during the following decade, the river was pretty much dry til the 80s came along.

The 80s explosion was surreal. I thot music could only get better but man, it's sad how time has swhown that I was living in a fool's paradise. :(

God bless youtube which is our passport back into time.

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Posted by: Shummy ( )
Date: April 01, 2015 04:40PM

Couldn't get that one to play but thanks anyway.

IMO, this one's their masterpiece.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SI9qQxJtmo4

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Posted by: torturednevermo ( )
Date: April 01, 2015 05:07PM

Ah, the eighties. Peter Gabriel solo, Pete Townshend’s White City album, and the Police.

Fifty million years ago
You walked upon the planet so,
Lord of all that you could see
Just a little bit like me,

………….

Fifty million years ago
They walked upon the planet so
They live in a museum
It's the only place you'll see 'em.

Walking in your footsteps.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eczOimsS9GY


The seventies gave us some reflections on time too ...

"Time keeps on slippin', slippin', slippin' ..."
"Into the future."
"I wanna fly like an eagle..."

(Steve Miller)

Anyway, I'm just blathering away now ... he he.

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Posted by: Shummy ( )
Date: April 01, 2015 05:20PM

Then were all those clever chaps from down under, remember?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY7S6EgSlCI



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/01/2015 05:22PM by Shummy.

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Posted by: torturednevermo ( )
Date: April 01, 2015 05:38PM

Yes, down by the sea, we all learned about what vegemite was.
The eighties brought that whole 'reggae' thing too.
Remember The Payolas and 'Eye's of a Stranger'?

There were still some good memories left over from seventies music too, though.

The only thing really good since the eighties have been all the female artists that came out. Alanis, Sarah Mclachlan, Adele, and I even think Avrel is a good hook writer. But, the men have mostly lost it lately IMO, except for the odd thing here and there. That's the fault of producers though, everything had to sound just like Nicklebuck there for awhile, and that really killed things for the guys for a bit.

Music goes in cycles. Maybe we're due for an upswing in quality and some diverse originality. Hopefully. I notice most kids that listen to live music in clubs these days are into older classic rock. Either you go to dance clubs, or if it’s live, it’s the rock classics from the 60’s, 70’s and 80’s. That’s why my Pink Floyd act gets booked … the kids really seem to dig it. Thanks for reminding me, too, I should throw an Alan Parsons song into my set sometime. Someone would probably get it.

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Posted by: iflewover ( )
Date: April 01, 2015 11:48PM

I'm with you for the most part on post-80's music, but EV is one of the best poets around in my book.

My personal post-mo theme song: PJ, "Present Tense" because I'm done living for the next life as most religions teach.

"Do you see the way that tree bends? Does it inspire?

Leaning out to catch the sun's rays...a lesson to be applied...

Are you gettin' something out of this all encompassing trip?

You can spend your time alone redigesting past regrets oh...
Or you can come to terms and realize
You're the only one who can forgive yourself oh yeah...
Makes much more sense to live in the present tense...

Have you ideas on how this life ends?
Checked your hands and studied the lines?
Have you the belief that the road ahead ascends off into the light?

Seems that needlessly it's gettin' harder
To find an approach and a way to live...
Are we gettin' something out of this all-encompassing trip?
You can spend your time alone redigesting past regrets, oh...
Or you can come to terms and realize...
You're the only one who cannot forgive yourself, oh...
A-makes much more sense to live in the present tense..."

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Posted by: torturednevermo ( )
Date: April 02, 2015 12:24AM

That’s an excellent piece iflewover, stating well our theme of being present and in the moment, rather than aching for the future or aching over the past. Good find. Yes, there are bits of good stuff still seeping out once in awhile, thankfully. Pearl Jam rocked.

I’m glad my teenage daughter (who has become quite the music-phile) still turns me onto new material all the time, or I’d probably just keep listening to the past. I’m glad she has done that for me. She even turned me onto Nirvana lately, which isn’t new, but was something I only took a cursory interest in back when it happened. I’ve been diggin' it lately when she slips it on in the car.

Thanks for throwing that Pearl Jam out there. They were one of the good nineties things. There were a few. Actually, probably quite a few, when you think about it. I guess the distant past maybe gets compressed in our memories, and we only remember back to the good stuff. After all, there was a lot of shlock that came along with those older eras as well way back when. (Shudder.)

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Posted by: iflewover ( )
Date: April 02, 2015 12:52AM

One of the few bands that have stood the test of time. I just caught them this fall on their North America tour...they killed it. Eddie soloed on Imagine. Check it out on youtube. Dig past the beat down tracks and you'll find some real gems with those guys. Great great lyrics.

Anyway, we kind of hijacked this thread, but Vedder definitely preaches about Bradley's point on multiple songs. Time is not on our side:)

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Posted by: Shummy ( )
Date: April 01, 2015 06:12PM

We be forever lovin 'Jah!

:o)

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Posted by: hello ( )
Date: April 02, 2015 01:03PM

time has come today, Chambers Bros.

Jah Love

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Posted by: Shummy ( )
Date: April 02, 2015 01:26PM

Can't put it off another day.
I don't care what others say.....



*cuckoo*


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHfB63ln1Ig

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Posted by: hello ( )
Date: April 02, 2015 07:29PM

screw the cowbell, we need more woodblock!

Tick Tock, said the cuckoo man...

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Date: April 02, 2015 07:55PM


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Posted by: crowbone ( )
Date: April 02, 2015 08:01PM

Roman Stoic philosopher, Seneca, stated that "It is a small part of life we really live. Indeed, all the rest is not life but merely time."

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Posted by: Shummy ( )
Date: April 02, 2015 08:11PM

Time is timeless inside a bottle......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO1rMeYnOmM

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Posted by: torturednevermo ( )
Date: April 02, 2015 08:45PM

I was going to throw out Time in a Bottle. DW and DD downloaded it a few weeks ago and have been playing it occasionally lately.

Ok, here’s one, it's … just a jump to the left …

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aizCMO-mI1Q

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