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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: February 25, 2015 10:38PM

is there Any Way TSCC can reverse the WoW provisions regarding those?


IOW, is there a 'face-saving' way out/around?

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: February 26, 2015 03:52AM

<topping, for the morning/East Coasties>

- another way of looking at this -

Suppose irrefutable evidence was verified showing that the positive effects of coffee / tea 'far' outweighed any problems/short-comings/side effects.....

akin to immunization / claims of autism ...


you, Peter PH / Molly Mormon, bring this info to your Bp and/or SP, 'sincerely' asking (WTF).

haven't they painted themselves into a corner?

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Posted by: Templar ( )
Date: February 26, 2015 08:02AM

GNPE Wrote:
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> haven't they painted themselves into a corner?

Not at all. They will simply point out that the WoW was given "not by commandment or constraint" (D&C 89:2) and that tea and coffee were never mentioned. God merely warned about "hot drinks" (D&C 89:9). They will also state that god wants more mormons to qualify for the temple.

The ability to "throw out the past" and "move on" has always been one of Mormonism's strong points since TBMs go along without question.

After changing Joseph's "eternal" temple endowment and removing the black skin "curse" prior to the millennium, a change of this nature would be small potatoes for TSCC.

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Posted by: anon666 ( )
Date: February 26, 2015 08:23AM

This is how my TBM friend responded to the article after I posted it on Facebook -

"Yes everyone should have brown teeth and their breath smell like a$$ every morning"

They just find something else wrong with it.

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Posted by: notamormon ( )
Date: February 26, 2015 09:26AM

anon666 Wrote:
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> This is how my TBM friend responded to the article
> after I posted it on Facebook -
>
> "Yes everyone should have brown teeth and their
> breath smell like a$$ every morning"
>
> They just find something else wrong with it.

So your TBM friend doesn't brush his/her teeth before bed? Yuck

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Posted by: anonuk ( )
Date: February 26, 2015 08:48AM

If the WOW was "not by commandment or restraint" then why is it now vital for a temple recommend?

It's strict adherence is not for the purpose of 'perfecting the saints' so they can run without being weary, etc: it is merely ensuring that no addictions are being funded before tithing is paid. Coffee can be expensive when drunk frequently, especially if it is fresh rather than instant. Tea used to be very expensive, especially in the times of Joe & Co when it had to be imported from far afield. Tea used to be kept under lock and key so servants could not help themselves to the master's stock.

Frequent purchasing of tea then or coffee now would not consume 10% of one's income, but an addict makes sure they have their substance before other non-essentials.

Using tobacco or eating a lot of red meat can be quite expensive in comparison to eating a mainly vegetarian diet and not consuming tobacco.

Yes, the more I consider the reasons, the more it seems likely that the WOW was designed to streamline members' expenditure, obviously with the purpose of ensuring tithing is paid in full.

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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: February 26, 2015 08:53AM

The WoW is not about health. It is about following orders. A reversal of policy is about as likely as Jews and Moslems embracing pork and shrimp.

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Posted by: caedmon ( )
Date: February 26, 2015 08:55AM

The WoW has is a test of obedience. It is not now and never has been about health so there is no need to change it.

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