I know. I'm on "vacation" from RfM. However, I was directed to a site a couple of days ago and decided to share some information.

My DS (TBM) is a geek like me and was recently the lead developer for lds.org (he left the employ of the Church Technology department for other employment over a year ago). He texted the URL of a site seemingly developed at BYU but tied to familysearch.org, the church's genealogical site. The URL allows me to invoke an app, after signing in with my lds.org credentials, and find relatives. Since there have been postings here regarding our LDS ancestry, I thought I'd share mine. Now, this app will also find non-LDS famous ancestors, so I have included a list of U. S. Presidents to whom it says I am related as well as a few just plain famous Americans.

Susan I/S has my e-mail address so, if any of you still have your lds.org credentails and they are active or have LDS relatives who have an account, I can provide the URL and you can have a look for yourselves.

Here 'tis (and yes, Steve Benson, as unfortunate as it may be for you to know, we are related by blood, not just by marriage as I had hitherto surmised):

Three Witnesses
Martin Harris - 4th cousin 8 times removed

Eight Witnesses
Hyrum Smith - 5th cousin 5 times removed
Samuel Harrison Smith - 5th cousin 5 times removed
Hiram Page - 6th cousin 7 times removed

Prophets
Howard William Hunter - 11th cousin 2 times removed
Gordon Bitner Hinckley - 3rd cousin 3 times removed
David Oman McKay - 9th cousin 4 times removed
Wilford Woodruff - 5th cousin 5 times removed
George Albert Smith - 6th cousin 4 times removed
Lorenzo Snow - 5th cousin 6 times removed
Harold Bingham Lee - 7th cousin 2 times removed
Ezra Taft Benson - 9th cousin 3 times removed
Spencer Woolley Kimball - 6th cousin 3 times removed
Joseph Fielding Smith - 6th cousin 4 times removed
Thomas Spencer Monson - 10th cousin 2 times removed
Heber Jeddy Grant - 9th cousin 5 times removed
Joseph Fielding Smith - 6th cousin 3 times removed
Brigham Young - 6th cousin 6 times removed
Joseph Smith - 4th cousin 5 times removed

Current Apostles
Boyd Kenneth Packer - 10th cousin 3 times removed
Richard Gordon Scott - 8th cousin 2 times removed
Lowell Tom Perry - 6th cousin 2 times removed
Dallin Harris Oaks - 8th cousin 4 times removed
Robert Dean Hales - 10th cousin 1 times removed
David Allan Bednar - 9th cousin 2 times removed
Melvin Russell Ballard - 8th cousin 1 times removed
Nelson Sr Russell Marion - 12th cousin 1 times removed
Jeffrey Roy Holland - 11th cousin 1 times removed
Neil Linden Andersen - 10th cousin 2 times removed

Deceased Apostles
Hugh B. Brown - 5th cousin 4 times removed
Parley Parker Pratt - 6th cousin 5 times removed
Henry Thorpe Beal Isaacson - 10th cousin 3 times removed
LeGrand Richards - 8th cousin 6 times removed
Orson Ferguson Whitney - 8th cousin 3 times removed
Delbert Leon Stapley - 7th cousin 3 times removed
Ezra Taft Benson - 7th cousin 7 times removed
Henry Dinwoody Moyle - 8th cousin 4 times removed
Marriner Wood Merrill - 7th cousin 5 times removed
Joshua Reuben Clark - 6th cousin 3 times removed
Charles Coulson Rich - 8th cousin 3 times removed
Charles William Penrose - 10th cousin 4 times removed
Stephen L. Richards - 7th cousin 7 times removed
Franklin Dewey Richards - 6th cousin 8 times removed
Reed Smoot - 10th cousin 4 times removed
Bruce Redd McConkie - 9th cousin 1 times removed
Marion George R0mney - 7th cousin 3 times removed
Marvin Jeremy Ashton - 11th cousin 3 times removed
Albert Ernest Bowen - 10th cousin 4 times removed
Neal Ash Maxwell - 9th cousin 2 times removed
Moses Thatcher - 8th cousin 5 times removed
Frederick Granger Williams - 6th cousin 8 times removed
Heber Chase KIMBALL - 7th cousin 7 times removed
David Wyman Patten - 4th great great uncle
Thomas Baldwin Marsh - 7th cousin 7 times removed
Joseph Bitner Wirthlin - 10th cousin 3 times removed
David Bruce Haight - 8th cousin 4 times removed
James Edward Talmage - 7th cousin 4 times removed
Anthony Woodward Ivins - 8th cousin 4 times removed
Melvin Joseph Ballard - 12th cousin 2 times removed
Nathan Eldon Tanner - 6th cousin 3 times removed
John Edward Page - 6th cousin 7 times removed
John Farnham Boynton - 8th cousin 5 times removed
Lyman Wight - 8th cousin 6 times removed
James Esdras Faust - 9th cousin 3 times removed
Rudger Clawson - 3rd cousin 4 times removed
Amasa Mason Lyman - 5th cousin 4 times removed
Matthew Cowley - 7th cousin 4 times removed
Orson Hyde - 6th cousin 5 times removed
Willard Richards - 5th cousin 9 times removed

Famous Americans
Elias Disney - 8th cousin 3 times removed
Amelia Mary EARHART - 11th cousin
Jesse Woodson James - 8th cousin 6 times removed
William Frederick Cody - 8th cousin 6 times removed
Nathaniel ( Hathorne) Hawthorne - 6th cousin 8 times removed
Samuel L. Clemens - 6th cousin 6 times removed
Susan Brownell Anthony - 4th cousin 5 times removed
Buster Or Joseph Francis Keaton - 9th cousin 4 times removed
Truman Osborn Angell - 8th cousin 4 times removed
John ( Duke) Wayne - 7th cousin 1 times removed
Jacob Vernon Hamblin - 5th cousin 8 times removed
Bing Crosby - 8th cousin 4 times removed
Robert LeRoy Parker - 12th cousin 1 times removed
Aron Presley (Elvis) - 8th cousin 1 times removed
Emily Elizabeth Dickinson - 8th cousin 4 times removed
Philo Taylor Farnsworth - 7th cousin 4 times removed

U. S. Presidents
Franklin Pierce - 5th cousin 7 times removed
Millard Fillmore - 8th cousin 6 times removed
(Hiram) Ulysses Simpson Grant - 6th cousin 6 times removed
Abram Ballou Garfield - 6th cousin 6 times removed
James Madison - 5th cousin 8 times removed
Mc Kinley William - 8th cousin 5 times removed
William Henry Harrison - 8th cousin 4 times removed
Warren G Harding - 9th cousin 1 times removed
Herbert C. Hoover - 10th cousin 2 times removed
(Hon) Theodore Roosevelt - 6th cousin 5 times removed
Benjamin W. Harrison - 8th cousin 6 times removed
John Tyler - 9th cousin 5 times removed
Richard Milhous Nixon - 6th cousin 2 times removed
William Howard Taft - 7th cousin 5 times removed
James Monroe - 5th cousin 7 times removed
Abraham Lincoln - 7th cousin 7 times removed
Harry S Truman - 11th cousin 3 times removed
Lyndon B. Johnson - 10th cousin 4 times removed
Thomas Jefferson - 6th cousin 7 times removed
Calvin Galusha Coolidge - 6th cousin 3 times removed
Franklin Delano Roosevelt - 6th cousin 5 times removed
George Washington - 5th cousin 9 times removed

Quite tangled, eh?!

This is only a portion of what I got back.

Of course, as with a-n-y-t-h-i-n-g performed by LDS "genealogists", I am somewhat dubious of this information as a whole. but, even the LDS can be correct from time to time.

At the very least, it was entertaining to me. For 30 minutes. *grin*

Anyway, my real point being that most of us multi-generational LDS folk are so very intertwined that some of us could potentially (and facetiously) be our own granpa/grandma! Is it any less surprising the current Q12+3 are all related?

Not to me.

Now, back to my "vacation".

I've been involved in genealogy since I was 13 and am now a curator on Geni.com. The Global Family Tree now has over 85million individual profiles connected. The world really is a very small place. I am not in the least surprised at your results (although still fascinate me).

As they say, in the future, you will either be the ancestor of everyone, or of no-one.

Vacation huh, I was wondering what had happened to you. Anyways, 8th cousing 6 times removed? You really are a geek...

Hey brother! I just emailed SusanI/S and requested your email. I have a login for LDS.org and I would like to do what you did.

Oh, so now we're brothers, eh?

We shall see...

*grin*

I await Susan I/S' response...

moose Wrote:
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> Oh, so now we're brothers, eh?

http://exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,1494290,1494360#msg-1494360

You even said amen.

e-mail sent.

Got it. I will check it out later at home. Thanks again.

Oh, and here is a coincidence. You work with something we use for our clients here at my work.

I bet you haven't heard that before? :)

BlueZone?

Nope. We're so obscure I doubt you could find me.

BTW, Here are my closest relations from my list. Are we actually related?

Hugh B. Brown great grandfather Deceased Apostles
Henry Dinwoody Moyle 10th cousin Deceased Apostles
James Stewart 13th great grandfather European Royalty
Child Bogart 12th cousin Famous Americans
Kevin Wayne Pearson 11th cousin Seventy
Steven Erastus Snow 5th cousin Seventy
Paul Edward Koelliker 8th cousin Seventy
Bruce Clark Hafen 10th cousin Seventy
Gary Evan Stevenson 9th cousin Seventy
Earl Carr Tingey 6th cousin Seventy
Cecil Osborn Samuelson 9th cousin Seventy
Dallas Nielsen Archibald 9th cousin Past Seventies
Vaughn J. Featherstone 12th cousin Past Seventies
Paul Harold Dunn 9th cousin Past Seventies
John Howland 10th great grandfather Mayflower
Samuel Fuller 9th great great uncle Mayflower
John Alden 10th great great uncle Mayflower
William BREWSTER 11th great great uncle Mayflower
David Fullmer 13th great grandfather Early LDS
Gov. Lilburn W Boggs 12th cousin Early LDS
William Huntington 4th great grandfather Early LDS
John Smith 4th great great uncle Early LDS
Walter Percy Chrysler 12th cousin Science_Technology
Elizabeth Hillard 14th cousin HuntWagon
Jon Steven Young 4th cousin FamousLDS
Daniel Lyman Carter 10th cousin LDSHymn
Laurence Milton Yorgason 14th cousin LDSHymn
Elizabeth Hillard 14th cousin LDS Pioneers
Mary Morton 14th cousin LDS Pioneers
Eliza Morton 14th cousin LDS Pioneers
Eliza Morton 14th cousin Martin Handcart Company
Mary Morton 14th cousin Martin Handcart Company
James Brown 4th great great uncle Mormon Battalion
James Stephens Brown 3rd great great uncle Mormon Battalion
James Greer Camp 3rd great great uncle Mormon Battalion
Israel Evans 11th cousin Mormon Battalion
Frederick Forney 12th cousin Mormon Battalion
Dimick Baker Huntington 3rd great great uncle Mormon Battalion
David Study 12th cousin Mormon Battalion
Albert Miles Standish Tanner 4th great great uncle Mormon Battalion
Myron Tanner 4th great great uncle Mormon Battalion
Gov. Lilburn W Boggs 12th cousin Joseph Smith Papers
Amos Botsford Fuller 3rd great grandfather Joseph Smith Papers
David Fullmer 13th great grandfather Joseph Smith Papers
John Solomon Fullmer 12th great great uncle Joseph Smith Papers
Salmon Gee 4th great grandfather Joseph Smith Papers
Dimick Baker Huntington 3rd great great uncle Joseph Smith Papers
Soloman Mack 6th great great uncle Joseph Smith Papers
Silas Smith 4th great great uncle Joseph Smith Papers
John Tanner 5th great grandfather Joseph Smith Papers
Brigham Young 3rd great grandfather Joseph Smith Papers
Asahel Smith 4th great grandfather Joseph Smith Papers
John Smith 4th great great uncle Joseph Smith Papers
Joseph Smith Sr. 4th great great uncle Joseph Smith Papers

This is actually the coolest thing the church (or BYU) has ever done - if it's real and accurate. I have my doubts.

Moose, I didn't know you were taking a hiatus. Will miss you, if that's the case, but have fun at whatever.

I am, for a bit, until I can have a little chat with my wife about the current apostate state of my brain.

Thanks for the well wishes! I'll be checking in from time to time to read, but will seldom post...unless the need is too great or the opportunity too ripe.

Take care your yourself! I thoroughly enjoy your posts.

Oh, Moose! Moose! Come back, Moose! Mooooose!

Oh, Moose. Dear Moose.

Moose.

*sighs*

While I'm away, cludgie, please enjoy this:

http://youtu.be/dciUpHfVg9E

I knew there was a lot of family ties - so to speak. But, someone, please, explain to me what "removed" means? Once, twice, thrice, etc? I get lost in that part.

"Removed" is simply the number of rungs up or down the generational ladder. For example, you have first cousins, the children of your aunts and uncles and with whom you have common grandparents.

The children of those first cousins would be your first cousins, once removed. The grandchildren of those same first cousins would be your first cousins, twice removed. And so on.

Your parents had first cousins of their own. Their children are your second cousins with whom you have common great-grandparents. The children of your second cousins would be your second cousins, once removed. And so on.

Whats up Buddy?

Glad to see you taking a small vacation from your vacation :)

Oh and send this to me man. You know where too.



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It's in the ether.

Ether that or you've already got it!

If you have a Y chromosome, it you be interesting to know how many of those males you're related to biologically.

Well, I am a "Y" alumnus...

*snicker*

Yes, I have a Y chromosome. If I could only remember where I put it...

moose -- that is fascinating. Reminds me of reading Michael Quinn's book "Origins of Power" years ago.

I would love to get the site URL - how do i get it??



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So I had to play this game...here are just a few things from mine.
(It only has my Dad's side. I don't know why, but I can't find my mom on this.)

Name Relationship Group
Brigham Young 10th cousin (Prophets)
Joseph Smith 10th cousin (JS Papers-- Not JS the Prophet)
Hyrum Smith 11th cousin (8 witnesses) ((he was first to show up, so include JS jr, Alvin, all of them as 11th cousins. And the link is back in 1430's. So Joe and I weren't all that close lol.))

Dallin Harris Oaks 11th cousin (Current Apostle)
Joseph Fielding Smith 11th cousin 1 times removed (Prophets)
Gordon Bitner Hinckley 12th cousin 1 times removed (Prophets)
Nancy Rigdon 13th cousin
Spencer Woolley Kimball 13th cousin (Prophets)
Willard Cleon Skousen 13th cousin 1 times removed
Jon Meade Huntsman 13th cousin 1 times removed
David Allan Bednar 14th cousin 1 times removed


Then the cool ones

"Pres." Thomas Jefferson 12th cousin 1 times removed (Declaration signers)

(Hiram) Ulysses Simpson Grant 12th cousin 1 times removed

Arville Loren Wright 12th cousin 2 times removed

Herbert C. Hoover 14th cousin (US Pres)

Christian Iii King Of Denmark 13th great grandfather

James II King of England; VII Stuart Stuart 9th great great
uncle

James [ VI and I] Stuart 11th great grandfather (also known as King James I of England)

Mary Unknown 12th great grandmother ((Mary, Queen of Scots also known as Mary Stuart or Mary I of Scotland))

Cool stuff over the pond! Mine didn't go there. It should have.

Well, I think we are definitely related right?

James Stewart 13th great grandfather European Royalty

Should this be Stuart?

I thought he was an actor...

*snort*

He was. And a Mormon. Here is the proof.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HnSFMDsFqU

Ah, yes. THAT classic!

It does seem we're related! Sorry about your luck!

How do I email Susan I/S to get moose's email address?

Sup Cousin Hinckley,

I'm a first and you're a third cousin of the wrinkly one, but that's still fairly close.

Well, that explains my face...

*snort*