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Posted by: Giant Scorpion ( )
Date: March 16, 2014 10:40PM

Really, what IS Mormon tithing considered to be? A donation? A regular bill? A fee for services? A form of taxation?

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Posted by: Brethren,adieu ( )
Date: March 16, 2014 11:08PM

Over the pulpit and in the mormon scriptures, tithing is a commandment. Refer to exhibit A in primary evidence file, DC Section 119.
When you get your year end tithing statement,it is a voluntary contribution where no goods or services were exchanged, only intangible religous benefits were received in exchange for the money. This statement is printed on the receipt so people in the United States and other countries where law allows would be able to get a tax deduction. so, yes, tithing is tax deductible here in the U.S.A.

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Posted by: Sarony ( )
Date: March 17, 2014 12:40PM

Because the tithe donation is tax deductible ...

Because a tax deduction means the tithe is subsidised by taxpayers ...

Taxpayers should have a right to inspect the books of the charitible instutution.

I believe Thomas Jefferson said something like "whenever the people are well-informed, they can be trusted with their own government."

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Posted by: tensolator ( )
Date: March 16, 2014 11:09PM

If you pay enough, it is tax deductible.

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Posted by: crom ( )
Date: March 17, 2014 12:23PM

Standard deduction for married filing jointly is $12400. So you wouldn't itemize unless your deductions exceed the standard deduction threshold. I suspect for a lot of people there is no tax advantage.

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Posted by: calianon ( )
Date: March 17, 2014 12:29PM

If your not a homeowner who can itemize their mortgage interest, then most likely you won't meet that threshold.

Tithing is already regressive, and the tax deduction further amplifies this and is another reason that tithing is much more difficult for the poor to pay.

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Posted by: Chump ( )
Date: March 17, 2014 12:52PM

There is a benefit for most Mormons that have several kids and pay mortgage interest, student loan interest, etc...

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Posted by: Solitary Loner ( )
Date: March 16, 2014 11:10PM

But there are so many poor members who can't, so they are being robbed blind.

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Posted by: readwrite ( )
Date: November 15, 2017 08:51PM


Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/15/2017 08:52PM by readwrite.

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Posted by: Giant Scorpion ( )
Date: March 17, 2014 12:04AM

Bummer. The fact that it's tax deductible means that NON-Mormons and atheists are ultimately the ones paying for it.... just as we pay to support every other frivilous religion out there.

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Posted by: roslyn ( )
Date: March 17, 2014 12:05AM

Yes it is tax deductible, just like other charitable contributions but the majority of people take the standard deduction so they don't actually deduct the actual amount.

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Posted by: moremany ( )
Date: March 17, 2014 01:25AM

Yes. It is essentially a tax - called a "donation", on the tithing slips- but treated as a "payment (for getting) into heaven"/ callings/ respect/ equal treatment, etc... "Enclosed is my voluntary contribution to be credited to the following accounts"... then it goes ... "t, fo, b, w, mf, building- for Maintenance, Repair, Equipment and or Construction, other, specify - TOTAL DONATION"...

Supposed to be between you and the Bishop/"church"/top-of-the-pyramid/ ladder - "God" - who the mormons plan replaces with an invisible Jesus, wearing a hotel robe and playing a golden trumpet, alerting tbm's that the end is near... the beginning.

If you pay, you can deduct that much from your intelligence, allegiance and allowance.

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: March 17, 2014 02:24AM

Temple Tax; and, more Mormons then even we guesstimate understand it as such!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/17/2014 02:26AM by guynoirprivateeye.

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Posted by: caffiend ( )
Date: March 17, 2014 12:35PM

guynoirprivateeye Wrote:
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> Temple Tax; and, more Mormons then even we
> guesstimate understand it as such!

Excellent terminology, Guy!

The sales tax is also a flat-rate tax, and is inherently regressive. The lower one's income, the more painful it is. But politicians, even liberals, keep jacking it up.

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Posted by: Giant Scorpion ( )
Date: March 17, 2014 02:42AM

It really is sickening that a massive, perverted mind-control organization like this not only gets away with, but prospers on, billions of tax-free dollars given to them by the public.

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Posted by: Strength in the Loins ( )
Date: March 17, 2014 04:02AM

^^^ this.

Even as a hard-core TBM, I had a hard time with the idea of tithing on gross income rather than surplus income. It always pissed me to hear someone say how tithing was fair because it was 10% for everybody. The brain dead MORmONs that would say this never considered the concept of "discretionary income."

It's a hell of a lot easier for someone making $200,000 a year to give away 10% of their money than it is for someone making $20,000 a year. The second fellow has zero discretionary income. The only way that I could ever justify that was to believe that the Lard would bless them accordingly.

Of course, now that I realize it's all a sham, I get angry about it. It is simply amoral to take so much from those who can't afford it.

And since the OP was mentioning tax treatment...poor tithing payers get doubly screwed over because their tithing contributions will not get them above the standard deduction. Only wealthy tithe payers that itemize their deductions will benefit.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/17/2014 04:02AM by Strength in the Loins.

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Posted by: summer ( )
Date: March 17, 2014 05:42AM

Strength in the Loins Wrote:
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> It is simply amoral to take so much from those who can't afford it.

I agree. For a low income individual, that 10% is likely needed to pay for bills and food.

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Posted by: slskipper ( )
Date: March 17, 2014 07:08AM

Another call for the history teacher: the reason churches were given tax exempt status was with the understanding that the money would be used for real charity work, thereby alleviating the burden on the government for caring for the poor. It was never intended that the tax exemption be diverted into things like proselytizing or construction of massive handshake clubhouses.

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Posted by: Greyfort ( )
Date: March 17, 2014 08:04AM

It is a tax deduction here in Canada, but you only get to claim a percentage of it.

Say you've donated $400.00. Federally, the rate is 15% on the first $200 and 29% on the remaining $200 = $88 total claim. Provincially, the rate is 11% on the first $200 and 15% on the remaining $200 = $52 total claim, leaving a total tax credit of $140.00.

It never made all that much difference on my tax refund.

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Posted by: Giant Scorpion ( )
Date: March 17, 2014 08:39AM

Here in Australia, donations to charity are 100% tax deductible... although I don't know how that works with tithing, because I've never donated a cent to any bloodsucking, parasitic evil, scamming death cult.

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Posted by: Bummer ( )
Date: November 15, 2017 03:18AM

Sorry darling, it is not. The ATO clearly states that the LDS church is not eligible to receive tax deductible donations. it simply means, the church can accept donations from members but the members can't claim it as tax deductible. http://www.abr.business.gov.au/SearchByAbn.aspx?SearchText=84114483091

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Posted by: Bummer ( )
Date: November 15, 2017 03:15AM

NO, tithings made to the LDS church in AUSTRALIA ARE NOT TAX DEDUCTIBLE. Who ever said that don't know what they are talking about. The tax office determines the DGR (Deductible Recipient Gift) status of a charitable organisation. NOT all charities are eligible to receive tax deductible gifts and donations and the LDS church is one of these organisations.It is clearly stated in the ATO website what the DGR status of the LDS church here in Australia is. You can pay thithes of course and the church can accept it but you CANT claim it as a tax deductible donation. It's so misleading and almost a blatant lie when bishops say you can claim it as tax deductible.
http://www.abr.business.gov.au/SearchByAbn.aspx?SearchText=84114483091

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Posted by: itzbeen20 ( )
Date: November 15, 2017 04:57PM

2012. University of Tampa Prof Crager, and Yeager and Vega did a study.
Yearly,over $71,000,000,000 of taxes are needed to maintain non-profits.
Yearly, the States lose $26,200,000,000 in property tax income due to nonprofits.
Think someone figured the federal portion to be $1,300, per taxpayer— not family— per year.
That was a few years ago.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/15/2017 04:59PM by itzbeen20.

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Posted by: readwrite ( )
Date: November 15, 2017 08:53PM

Nope! Is dope?

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