Not a 'single' mention of Jesus Christ.

The crisis they are facings is "unique?" No. The crisis they are facing is that people can see the smoke and mirrors.

ZIryse? Sounds like a Viagra type drug.

He might be taken more seriously if it didn't look like he was in his mommy's unheated basement, sorting food storage and ammo like a Mormon prepper. (Being called thatmormonboy as a married adult is creepy also.)

The harsh reality is there is no place in the church for singles, not hetero, LGBT, divorced, widows or widowers. No amount of get-togethers will change that fact.

Singles are leaving because it is a bogus religion and completely irrelevant. Fix that problem, Mormon Boy.

It's not unique to LD$ though. Most religions are losing followers http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/26/millennials-gay-unaffiliated-church-religion_n_4856094.html http://www.pewforum.org/2012/10/09/nones-on-the-rise/

What is his source for 70,000?

Yes! If his 70k figure is accurate, that is HUGE. If that many people officially leave per year, there are probably another 100-200k people who just stop going. This all seems too good to be true. I reckon he's full of bs.

This guy couldn't say sh!t, if his mouth was full of it!

His "dreams" (visions to mormons) tell him that people are leaving not because they are learning the truth, but rather it's due to the treatment they receive after having learned the truth.

What a crock! When it was clear to me that the Book of Abraham was a fraud and JS couldn't translate Egyptian hieroglyphics any better than I could, I was completely inactive by 1971. Frankly, at that point, I could have cared less about what mormons thought of me. I just knew I wanted nothing to do with them and their bullshit religion.

He's an order of magnitude off.

70,000 resignations is 350 per working day, or a resignation processed every minute and change. There's no way the COB's resignation unit is moving that many.

Why not? Since I've been coming here, 2006, the person in charge of resignations has changed from being just one man, Greg Dodge(great name for escaping! Dodge the cult!), to now being a department of multiple employees.
How many employees work in this department? I don't think we know, but you can divide your number by a smallish staff to get the workload down to a reasonable amount.
After all, they change a computerized tick mark, and send off a form letter. How much time can that take exactly?

That's what I was thinking. I still think the number is high, but a couple of interns could handle the workload.

I'd bet there are ten that leave without resigning for every resignation. I wouldn't be surprised if 70k stopped tithing and attending in each of the last few years, but I can't believe that that many have formally resigned.

Chump Wrote:
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> That's what I was thinking. I still think the
> number is high, but a couple of interns could
> handle the workload.
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> I'd bet there are ten that leave without
> resigning for every resignation. I wouldn't be
> surprised if 70k stopped tithing and attending in
> each of the last few years, but I can't believe
> that that many have formally resigned.

If that is the case…the 10 to one thing..this would be fatal to LDS Inc.

We can reasonably guess that all new recruiting of affluent people has ceased.

We can reasonably guess that any newer members, with the exemption of conversions due to marital plans, will not pass a cost benefit analysis.

We can reasonably assume that most new converts are outside the United States and probably a cash drain rather than an investment.

If we multiply that number of 70k by 10, we get 700k. Based on a membership guess of 5 million, that is a 14% drop in membership annually. And more importantly, that trend will go higher, because LDS Inc refuses to change, and cannot conceal the reality any longer.

This will come to head, as more leave, it becomes easier for others to leave regarding LDS grip on family, business, and employment entanglements.

Most importantly, whether a meetinghouse or temple is used by 5 or 1000, it needs to be maintained, heated and cooled, telephones service, insured etc.

These costs will rise to a point that the empire becomes unsustainable.

LDS Inc cannot sell temples due to their nature and promises.

We will know the end is near by two clues. Either the selling of a temple, or the defaulting on CES pensions.

I expect to see both in the next few years.

And if you, as a TBM, worked in that department, wouldn't you -- at some point -- start to wonder . . .

He seems reasonably articulate, but he first calls the information about MMM and issues with black people and early polygamy "obscure anti-Mormon" stuff; then calls it "historical information."

Why is he still in the cult? And why is he in a garage?

So sad still rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic ... :(

Hey, why complain? If he says 70,000, that's a good start!

Also, he says the problem is "unique", and that's true since the church is still young enough that primary documents over the last 180 years show it to be fiction. Abuse and other things are found in other religions and that is a factor, but the con-game that JS came up with is provable.

Unfortunately, he never addresses why people leave with examples--I'd love to hear him talk about the BoA, etc.

I wonder when thatmormonboy will join us on RfM.

Unless he turns out to be a newer Joe Smith...........

What I heard:

"People aren't leaving Mormonism because they have integrity, they're leaving because Mormons expect them not to."

Well it's great that people share their feelings on youtube even if I don't always agree. It gets the dialog going so it's a good thing. He has courage. I respect that.

Can't figure out if this guys a TBM, A backslider, questioning, or what. Granted, I didn't watch the whole video but I read several of the youtube video's and got the jist.

and 70,000 'official' resignations seems way too high to me. Although I do agree for every official resignation there's probably a dozen more who just go inactive.

It sounds about right. Because John Dehlin quoted the same numbers (almost) in his vblog "
Top 5 Myths and Truths about Why Committed Mormons Leave the Church".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP3GJeYIN3s

He used the numbers from cumorah site.

We also have to note, that many are leaving without resigning. John shows the chart that of the 15 million members only approx. 2 million are active and consider themselves still Mormon. This chart was made in 2010, so it's probably even more.

This also shows how uninspired the CES practice of not presenting members with the truths. CES found its mistake and then started discussing some of the history / doctrine and tried to "inoculate" the young members. Too little, too late!!!



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Single Saints from around the world??? meet hot girls, what a messed up man. It is confused and misguided cult based on layers and layers of lies, why is he still in this sick mess for money his going to make from his youth group? Everyone has a scam in that cult these days.