Well crap heres your non tscc study on porn. Looks like theres more to come. http://www.gq.com/blogs/the-feed/2013/11/10-reasons-why-you-should-quit-watching-porn.html

Huh. Suppose no one here will agree with it. Good luck.

hahahahahaha! You're funny: "...theres(sic) more to come."

You know, even ghawd masturbates. It's tough to resist fantasizing at times.

Ghawd's fantasy is being in a closet and watching Lucifer have his way with ghawd's two favorite wives and they're doing things ghawd has made rules against doing...

Yep, nothing attracts like the 'forbidden'!

But yeah, porn is second rate to being in love with a nurturing, caring human being. But not having any sexual outlet is completely third rate, so it's simple math.

Im thinking when they finally make the connection to masterbation (excessive) as the cause to all these negitive effects to porn.. take masterbation away from porn GOD does it get boring, but life bounces back to normal and I get my vibe back which gets importatnt when your 41 yo male and single trying to meet his female mate (walmart gets interesting). ALOT of the "revealing" facts in tis study is really a no shit kinda thing but its just puts it there.

So, a survey of an anti-porn R..... (banned word) community shows porn to be bad (with the disclaimer "While none of the results are conclusive").

No confirmation bias there at all.

And to boot, they reference a study that shows the brain scans of addicts are similar (regardless of what they are addicted to). Hmmm...therefore porn bad anti-fap good?

Seems to me it's just another article trying to push an anti-porn agenda. Makes you wonder how much these peoples (pushers) religious beliefs are guiding their conclusions.

Here is a couple of the reasons listed.

3. 12 percent of NoFappers report watching 5 or more hours of Internet porn every week. 59 percent report watching between 4 and 15(!!) hours of porn every week.

4. Almost 50 percent of those on NoFap have never had sex in their lives, meaning their only experience with intimacy is purely digital

Neither of these apply to me and I fail to see exactly how these are reasons anyone should stop watching porn anyway. These arent inherently negative things and are written in a way as to assume these individuals should be ashamed of themselves...but thats not a FACT just an OPINION.

What a bull shit article you linked.

and another

5. 42 percent of male college students report visiting porn sites regularly.

What are they getting at?

How is this a reason to not watch porn?!?!?!

It has nothing to do with anything... Just senseless data based off a senseless poll aimed at making people feeling bad for being HUMAN.

I got enough of that GARBAGE from christianity and mormonism.



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I can't get into that link, but I'm sorry but GQ.com is not a peer-reviewed, scientifically sound organization that publishes replicated studies. Apparently, the word "study" means something different than what you think it means. I don't know what this is, but it ain't no study.

Pop culture venues (like GQ) tend to cherry-pick whatever is needed to prove the writers point. Value and moral judgments are especially prevalent when it comes to this issue with sex research. Most people don't want to sit down and read the actual scientific journal and dissect it point by point. There's also plenty of variables in the sex studies left out of these pop culture articles.

The biggest problem with sex research is lack of objectivity which is absolutely lacking in this article. Someone wanted to point out why they think porn is bad. The writer succeeded, but that doesn't mean he or she is correct.

I'm of the frame of mind as long as something isn't causing personal or social harm, it's fine.

I think pornography addiction is a real thing, just like other non-drug addictions- eating disorders, shopping, video games, etc. They have been proven to affect the same areas of the brain.

TSCC obviously exaggerates the risks of Pornography addiction, and anyone curious about sex in the internet age is going to google 'naked lady' or some variant thereof, just like boys got ahold of playboys and the like in the baby-boomer generation. It's just a healthy interest in sex. The church seems to make no delineation between someone who casually views porn, someone who has viewed it a few times in their life, or an actual addict. It's all the same sin to them.

I remember confessing to a bishop when I was a teenager that I had watched pornography, and he was on the cusp of making a referral to the local church-sponsored addiction recovery program- church AA, except for all addictions. It was fucking stupid- this assclown almost had me convinced that I was addicted to something I had done maybe 3 dozen times over the course of 3 or 4 years. Yep, real addict. Ironically, a became a habitual drug user soon after, eventually culminating in a terribly destructive I/V opiod/heroin addiction, so clearly their was some predilection for addiction in their somewhere.

With the church and pornography (and masturbation) I think it's all part of the psychological abuse intentionally inflicted to shame pubescent boys in the church. I don't know what purpose it possibly serves. I suppose it's part of the elaborate cycle to keep them ashamed of themselves to stay worthy, or lie about it, so they can keep churning out missionaries, who come home and marry young and churn out more children, to repeat the cycle ad infinitum. Any church that tells you that your body is something to be ashamed of, and natural instincts that harm no one else that are part of normal development, is a church to stay away. I get sick every time I think about the first time I was handed that Goddamn 'For young men only' BKP talk about the little factory.

I think there is no such thing as a "non drug addiction." That is co-opting the word "addiction" to label compulsive behaviors. Unfortunately, addiction is also a compulsive behavior, so I can understand why people conflate the two. But they mean very different things to me.

In my world, when I hear "addiction," I think that means "something that the body cannot physically live without." Compulsions are things that people feel compelled to do regardless of their awareness that those activities are self-destructive.

Porn can be self-destructive if it is used in place of normal intimate face-to-face relationships. Or if it is used as an educational tool, which it is not.

So I do not think porn is addictive. I think it can be a compulsion for some people who should probably be trying to develop some other coping tools.

and it doesn't matter that the body itself is stimulated to produce it...in response to food, sex, gambling, risky behaviors, even abusing others. It's the feel-good reward hormone and neurotransmitter, and a variety of addictive drugs (of the kind you admit) increase its activity.

I find it interesting for about 5 minutes.

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> I find it interesting for about 5 minutes.


Oh, so now we're into bragging!! I must have premature viewing habits.

I never know what happens at the end. I assume somebody dies.



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10. And 67 percent had an increase in energy levels as well as productivity.

This goes along with the wisdom traditions. Porn throws your sacral chakra out of balance, which drains your creative energy. That's also why jocks lay off the sex before a big game.

Victorian prudence gets it right by accident.

Actually prudence got nothing right by accident. Because there is absolutely nothing that suggests jocks perform better in sports if they do not have sex. That's just a myth.

So Victorian Prudence got it wrong, on purpose.



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This topic is a tough nut (no pun intended) on RfM for obvious reasons. TSCC does so much harm to its members due to its extremely abusive and prudish attitudes toward completely normal human sexuality - masturbation, homosexuality, sexual experimentation - that any hint that modern internet porn might be problematic for completely non-religious reasons is met with instant hostility and dismissal.

I find discussions about its potential effects on brain physiology - especially brains that haven't yet matured - to be quite interesting and compelling. It wouldn't bother me if my DH looked at porn - it's never been a topic of contention in our marriage of 24 years. But today's porn ain't the playboy or even penthouse mags of yesterday - it's a whole different ball game and it would seem the jury is still out as to whether this is entirely an innocuous, harmless thing -- again, religion's got nothing to do with how our brains are hardwired to respond to exciting and arousing stimuli.

Oh well.

I find it interesting that this crusading anti porn article would be printed in a metro-sexual, titillating magazine that is sensual to begin with? Also the bit about erectile disfunction and premature ejaculation? inferring that people who watch porn have problems with their plumbing. I've never heard that one before?

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0102419

More information.

Who has the time? Just who has the time? Any man, if given the time, will devote his whole life to sex. But as I ask, who has the time?

Ask around on this board. You'll find your answer.

Who here has posted about devoting their whole life to sex? Id be interested to know.

Only saying if they COULD. And besides, if you believe the ads, there are apparently some men who get an erection lasting for more than 4 hours.

Well that just sounds inconvenient

porn: the Alternate Fantasy


(alternate to the Morg, that's why they don't like it!)