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Posted by: michaelm (not logged in) ( )
Date: January 24, 2015 12:18PM

No, not from biblical times. The publication in your link is not credible.

This link gives a more reliable explanation.
http://www.csicop.org/si/show/civilizations_lost_and_found_fabricating_history_-_part_three_real_messages/

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Posted by: bradley ( )
Date: January 24, 2015 01:23PM

Possibly, but it doesn't make the BoM any less ridiculous.

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Posted by: SL Cabbie ( )
Date: January 24, 2015 02:11PM

http://dnaconsultants.com/Detailed/36.html

>Donald N. Yates, Ph.D. is principal investigator, owner and founder of DNA Testing Systems and DNA Consultants. He is of English-Scottish-Irish-Welsh and Choctaw-Cherokee descent and has a doctorate in classical studies from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. He has published widely in DNA and culture, medieval literature and philosophy and Native American studies. His books include The Bear Went over the Mountain, Old World Roots of the Cherokee and The Early Jews and Muslims of England and Wales: A Genetic and Genealogical History.

Scientific background: zero

Credibility: zero

Roadkill...

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Posted by: Cahomegrown ( )
Date: January 24, 2015 02:20PM

Yates Racial mix is one I can truly relate to!

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Posted by: saucie ( )
Date: January 24, 2015 09:29PM

SL Cabbie Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> http://dnaconsultants.com/Detailed/36.html
>
> >Donald N. Yates, Ph.D. is principal investigator,
> owner and founder of DNA Testing Systems and DNA
> Consultants. He is of English-Scottish-Irish-Welsh
> and Choctaw-Cherokee descent and has a doctorate
> in classical studies from the University of North
> Carolina at Chapel Hill. He has published widely
> in DNA and culture, medieval literature and
> philosophy and Native American studies. His books
> include The Bear Went over the Mountain, Old World
> Roots of the Cherokee and The Early Jews and
> Muslims of England and Wales: A Genetic and
> Genealogical History.
>
> Scientific background: zero
>
> Credibility: zero
>
> Roadkill...

As a mixed breed Cherokee.... Thank you Cabbie.... kisses !!!!!

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Posted by: exodus ( )
Date: January 24, 2015 02:17PM

98-99% of Indian DNA comes from Asiatic roots. There is a very small part of the 1% in DNA that was traced to a common roots from the Middle East 30,000 to about 17,000 years ago. There is that National Geographic article that keeps popping up and I think the most recent connection was made on bones from a Siberian boy that lived 13,000 years ago. All of this is far outside of the BoM timeline. There are no scientists that have tied North or South American Indians with a Middle Eastern connection in the BoM timeline, not to mention no connection in other disciplines (culture, linguistics, etc.)

Joseph Smith and several other apostles and prophets clearly identified the American Indians as descendents "Lamanites". It wasn't until recent DNA analysis debunked the theory of Middle Eastern roots in Indians and confirmed the land bridge theory that they have backed off of these claims... including altering the BoM title page.

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Posted by: SL Cabbie ( )
Date: January 24, 2015 04:42PM

It's been around since the remains were discovered in 1968, on private land, so the NAGPRA act requiring their reburial didn't apply (the remains have since been reburied per Native American custom), and Eske Willerslev sequenced both the mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) and the full autosomal (nuclear) genome. His results showed a close relationship to all Native Americans (more closely to those in South America; a number of factors may explain that), and an ancestral relationship with ancient Siberians (not "east Asians").

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v506/n7487/full/nature13025.html

The 24,000 year old find that is often brutally misquoted by Mormons involved another find, and the links between the two are apparent (in DNA science, particularly when the autosomes are involved, the numbers are incredibly large, and probability theory makes the relationships essentially certain).

Our good friend, Simon Southerton, has a blog entry discussing the Nat Geo article.

http://simonsoutherton.blogspot.com/

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Posted by: exodus ( )
Date: January 24, 2015 09:04PM

Thanks for the link

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Posted by: donbagley ( )
Date: January 24, 2015 10:17PM


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Posted by: Void K. Packer ( )
Date: January 24, 2015 10:48PM

Yes, they are.
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So is everyone else excepting most native inhabitants in sub-saharan africa. Of course that was anywhere from 15,000 - 50,000 years ago, but there you have it.

If you mean from Lehi ca. 600 BC? HAHAHAHAHA

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Posted by: scarecrowfromoz ( )
Date: January 24, 2015 11:46PM

Donald Yates and his company are nothing but modern day snake-oil salesman, out to bilk people out of their money. He and his company have long been disparaged on DNA and genealogy forums. Just google his name and "fraud" or "scam". Here are just a couple examples:

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=506.0
http://forums.familytreedna.com/showthread.php?t=32517

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Posted by: newtoutah ( )
Date: January 25, 2015 12:49AM

I sure appreciate the learned comments here debunking this.
There's a religious-based cancer center here in Utah that claims to fight the disease via one's geneology.
I can't imagine it working.
But if it keeps cousins from marrying it is a partly good thing.
Opinions?

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Posted by: smirkorama ( )
Date: January 25, 2015 12:55AM

MORmON SUCK-CESS for MORmON claims

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=261GDx8pF4I

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