Circumstances can change. I think they have. Poor John, in my opinion, is not going to be excommunicated.

Just going on record. :)

Just google "John Dehlin excommunication". You'll get articles from before the internet was invented. This guy is perpetually on the brink of being excommunicated. It's his thing.

It would be nice to actually see it happen some day so the poor sap can move on.



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You may be right. I was thinking the same thing recently. We may be hitting a point where you can't just excommunicate those people you disagree with, otherwise there may not be too many folks left. Maybe it's just wishful thinking, but maybe not.

He won't be excommunicated. He stopped going to church over 6 months ago. There is no reason for the church to anything now. He'll just fall under the rank of inactive members.

Well, I don't expect John to give up that easily, but I'm guessing he'll have to wait 22 months.

I could see him attending again in order to give his testimony during the Sunday meetings.

if he stopped and encouraged others with doubts to do the same that would be interesting...

One of the things I would like to experience, is to be excommunicated. I would love that. Too bad I am not a member of the church. :-(

Yeah, this is an every other week rumor - I'll believe it when I see it. And if he were excommunicated, all that would prove was that he was right all along.

You can take this to bank and cash it: He Won't Be Excommunicated. Period.

Once he went inactive, there is no reason for the church to do anything to him.

They parted ways, end of story.

But they did meet with him and make threats after he went inactive. Though I agree I don't think they'll do anything more now.

Not with TSCC eyes looking at future PR disasters with the rumbling of political theater on the horizon. Then again, TSCC has done a lot of things that just didn't make sense anyway.

Roll the dice and see what happens. The random outcome is just as good for whatever TSCC might do.

Communicating in Mormonism is a one way street - they don't listen to God, they won't listen to you, and more incredibly, they can't listen to themselves - and MEMBERS are led or supposed to believe they are part of the traffic.

Ex-communication is their way of saying "you make us not understand or appreciate ourselves".

Dehlin has been getting testier of late. I notice that his FB things now are far edgier and critical.

And in his interviews. He's now more comfortable laughing at the laughable.

I just watched the episode of "Big Love" where Barb gets ex'd from the mainline LDS church. Is it anything like that?

I especially love Steve Voss' answer to his dad the stake president, "We've gone well beyond preaching, Now we're just being mean." or something to that affect.

I also listen to the podcasts on infants on thrones; one of they guys there told the story how they stood up in F&T and gave their anti-testimony. The guy hadn't been disfellowshipped or ex'ed so he still had the right to pray, talk and give his testimony without any harassment or censor.

I wish I could of done that, but I didn't know enough at the time because I didn't just resign but went inactive for a while before I sent in my resignation papers.

Dehlin is an enigma. He was on radio west tonight talking about his research into how many gay LDS men are in unhappy marriages. He said something like 85% end in divorce and that bisexuals fair much better at not divorcing and enjoying the 'big nasty'. The focus in the broadcast was all about men apparently there are no lesbians in the church, women don't lust after other women, and it's all a Man problem. Women are the victims. Evergreen is for men. Shock therapy for men?

What about the women? (Personally I've known more lesbians)

It looks like the print version of that study is out.

http://www.sltrib.com/news/lds/2050536-155/if-a-gay-mormon-marries-a?wpisrc=nl_readin&wpmm=1

The man seems to be kicking the hornets nest, repeatedly.