hey other nursing home administrators or other employees of north american health care. every have a private conversation with the young president john sorenson (not the old guy GA) with john saying "its really quite simple, hire young, verbal, and attactive women, because that is what the doctors want to see, and doctors are your key to revenue"

I bet there are literally millions of people working in North American health care who have never heard of John Sorenson, and have no idea what he is the young president of.

If you are asking is he the only sexist clown in the health care industry, I think it is safe to say no, he is not alone.

Edit: btw, about half the med students these days are women. And especially in nursing homes, patients are the key to revenue, not doctors. Doctors may be key in hospital admissions and ordering procedures.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/20/2014 12:15PM by Brother Of Jerry.

Hello Brother,
I was not looking to make any kind of statement about sexist health care workers, or which referrals are most the most key, I was merely taking a walk down memory lane to see if there were others out there who worked for Brother John.

BTW North American Health Care is a privately owned company, with about 30 facilities. Also, I would take issue with the customer/patient is the key referral source, although I would agree word of mouth is powerful, but just consider the last time a physician referred you to a specialist. Were you given a list of cardiologists for instance or did they write the name of a cardiologist on a prescription. I would propose Brother that the majority of referrals are personal colleagues, not the free market, customer making the choice.

respectfully submitted,
jo jo

Because North American would encompass many countries with very different medical systems.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_North_American_countries_by_population

MJ makes a good point. Doctors are not revenue generators in Canada.

And Brother of Jerry makes a good point as well. There are plenty of sexists in medical professions have a look at this:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/dalhousie-dentistry-facebook-posts-prompt-rally-at-school-1.2879111

a bit of clarification needed obviously. I was looking to open up dialougue with previous nha's of this small company of ~ 34 nursing homes where the president, and temple recommend holding leader exhibited sexist behavior, and really how did they rationalize taking a paycheck in spite of his behavior, especially if they are a member, which I am.

Side bar: I will take exception to your comment that patients are revenue generators, yes true their insurance/cash pays the bills, however the golden referral to the nursing home, in my experience,is the physician saying "go there for hip replacement rehab, or there for cardiac rehab, or there for nice staff, and the referral is money in the bank.

To support this I ask you to look back on the last few referrals from your physician. Did she write on a script to see this cardiologist, or that pulmonologist, or you fillin the blank specialist?

My personal opinion is medical referrals except for your pharmacy, are steered by the provider you are seeing at the time. And from my small slice of the medical industry, the social worker and discharge planner at the hospital steers referrals at their will. The only thing that trumps a social worker referring away from nursing home is the physician, as they are still the top of the medical food chain.

My mother was not steered in any way when she was discharged to a nursing home. Instead we were merely asked where we wished to place her. I selected a facility based on proximity because I knew it would not be a long time that she was there and I wished to visit her every day.

My physician has always made referrals to the most respected specialists in the area.

I think that most of the referrals to nursing homes these days are from nurse case managers and social workers. Also, family members can and should do their own homework about what skilled nursing home would be most appropriate for their family member.

Most physicians in my area do not continue to care for their patients when the patients are transferred to a nursing home. A physician associated with the nursing home generally takes over. So, I don't think that too many doctors would be at all influenced by the pretty nurses in this or that nursing home, since these doctors would never set foot in the nursing home.

I always have the choice who I go to. I ask usually for reference, but then I always check out my docs. Some specialist require a PC to refer patients to them, but it is still the patients choice. I have insurance in Utah.

So no, my doc does not fill out a referral form or prescription that tells me who to go to and then get a kick-back for sending me there.

I do like to ask them "who would you take your kid to" and see what they say.

Knowledge is power, or the glory of god is intelligence or something like that. where did I hear that?

Excellenct feed back. I have always been "taught" by my regional directors to cater to the physicians and the case managers to become the part of the "preferred vendor" list of the physicians and case managers. Its is good to know your experiences have been about what I was taught as a piece of pure competition, unrestricted access to information and choice.