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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: November 23, 2014 12:44PM

Puts him in a whole new light dontcha think?

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Posted by: Zeniff ( )
Date: November 23, 2014 01:48PM

Yep.

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: November 24, 2014 03:19PM

Cosby has had "a network of enablers" for decades. Joseph Smith has had a corporation of enablers for almost 200 years.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/an-alleged-cosby-%E2%80%98fixer%E2%80%99-comes-out-of-the-shadows/ar-BBfAQTe

Just think about it. Brigham Young legitimized Joseph Smith's little trick of "marrying" his victims but instituting actual polygamy. Smith never intended on being a polygamist any more than Cosby was to having lots of girlfriends.

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Posted by: Forced_to_Sin_as_Prophet ( )
Date: November 23, 2014 02:02PM

Amen!

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Posted by: jesuslovesfutbol ( )
Date: November 23, 2014 02:04PM

The astonishing part is that so many hapless saps believed him and spread their legs for him.

Funny how the angel was always at hand when ol Joe saw someone new and wanted to take her to visit the barn loft.

That he is so lauded and worshiped by the mo faithful is beyond idiotic.

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Posted by: presleynfactsrock ( )
Date: November 23, 2014 02:51PM

Joe sure seemed to be surrounded by angels who were just ready-and-a-waitin' to come to his beck-n'-call. You see, ole Joe was such a nice guy and so deserving of these caring angels. They came to him for the first vision, for this, for that, he had ANGELS ON DEMAND.

Wonder how I can sign up?

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: November 24, 2014 11:51AM

presleynfactsrock Wrote:
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> They
> came to him for the first vision, for this, for
> that, he had ANGELS ON DEMAND.

This made me wonder, did he have ANGELS IN DEMAND for his financial dealings? I don't remember if this happened in Mormon History?

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Posted by: Exdrymo ( )
Date: November 24, 2014 12:28PM

Angels on Demand...snort.

Sounds like a porn website..

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Posted by: randyj ( )
Date: November 24, 2014 10:34PM

...that destroying the Nauvoo Expositor press, and using the Nauvoo Legion as his personal army to protect him from being arrested, would get him killed.

And there were no helpful angels standing at the top of that stairway in Carthage Jail, either.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/24/2014 10:34PM by randyj.

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Posted by: reuben ( )
Date: November 24, 2014 12:30PM

I understand wanting to marry your 14 year old daughter off (god knows they are challenge at that age), what I dont understand is how any mentally healthy adult male would be interested in said 14 year old girl. That to me is proof that JS was a sick bastard.

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Posted by: jj ( )
Date: November 24, 2014 03:17PM

God sends a hit man, a hit man-Angel to Joseph.

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: November 24, 2014 08:53PM

I like it. And the angel will ONLY not kill him unless he sacrifices a virgin with his sword of flesh.

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Posted by: verilyverily ( )
Date: November 24, 2014 09:02PM

FUCK SIDEWAYS WITH A HOT FIREPLACE POKER THE MAN NAMED JS. That is the hymn I will sing loud and clear.

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Posted by: donbagley ( )
Date: November 24, 2014 09:12PM

What do you want to bet that a good portion of Mormon men admire Joe Smith for his booty roster? I used to work with a sixty year old excommunicated Mormon man who said he would prefer girls who were fourteen for wives. I just read a piece that CA girl linked on her thread and the Mormon writer mentioned that Helen Kimball was fourteen and that was okay and typical for the era. I couldn't help but note a winking tone in his prose. I wonder if there's a cultural ripple from the early years?

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: November 25, 2014 09:18AM

My father molested a girl who to this day I have no idea how he could do it. She was 14. She hadn't hit puberty yet and looked 12.

It sickens me but I think the patriarchal culture I grew up in tacitly condones abuses of women as sexual objects.

My father is hen pecked. He will die a hen pecked husband, but he admires both of his fathers and both were terrible husbands and fathers. Rulon Jeffs, we know he was into young girls I just don't know how young and my grandfather (my father's adopted father) remarked when it was revealed that my father was going to jail that my father had the misfortune of getting caught.

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Posted by: outsider ( )
Date: November 24, 2014 11:09PM

I teach 14-year-olds and there are a few who are pretty developed physically, but mentally and emotionally, they're kids.

It's sick

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