A LONG time ago, when I first joined the church, I kept expecting to run into a bishop who became bishop by virtue of lineage. D&C 68 is another scripture they should have dumped a long time ago. Fortunately for the church, I don't think members read the scriptures or take them seriously anyway.

D&C68
16 And if they be literal descendants of Aaron they have a legal right to the bishopric, if they are the firstborn among the sons of Aaron;

17 For the firstborn holds the right of the presidency over this priesthood, and the keys or authority of the same.

18 No man has a legal right to this office, to hold the keys of this priesthood, except he be a literal descendant and the firstborn of Aaron.

19 But, as a high priest of the Melchizedek Priesthood has authority to officiate in all the lesser offices he may officiate in the office of bishop when no literal descendant of Aaron can be found

I used to attend a ward in the late 60's were one of the men told me his patrichal blessing said he was a literal descendant of Aaron. He the. Went to the Stake President and asked about becoming the bishop. He was told the church does not follow that. Just another fucked up made up lie that did not work out.

Cohen, Cohn, Kahn, Kahan, Kagan...I've met them all.

that named him as such in Ann Arbor MI.

I've wondered about this also...Because when I heard about the Lemba tribe in Africa, being able to prove through DNA that they were Cohen (Levite descendants). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemba_people

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-chromosomal_Aaron

http://www.cohen-levi.org/jewish_genes_and_genealogy/the_dna_chain_of_tradition.htm

Which means that A black man could of walked into any ward and set himself up as "Bishop" because he was a literal descendant of Aaron, a Levite.

The Church even accepted Mohammed as a prophet because of the patriarchal priesthood. http://journalofdiscourses.com/3/6
http://journalofdiscourses.com/3/7

Even dark skin and all, they knew that patriarchal priesthood still had to be accepted (side note* That's why in the temple we had the three bows on the hat and robes to signify the Aaronic, Patriarchal and Melchezidek priesthoods)
They considered themselves closer to the Crescent than to the Cross. They praised the Muslims for polygamy, modesty in dress, not drinking wine, etc...



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Due to the fact that my dad was the rock n roll legend this means that I'm entitled to be the Bishop :)

Those who can't accept this are just a bunch of hound dogs, crying all the time.

I had a mission companion who claimed Tal's dad was his priest's quorum advisor.

There are Cohen lines and Levi lines that can trace their lineage back as far as King David.

But they're of the tribe of Judah, and literal descendants going back as far as that.

The DNA supports their ancestral claims as to their origins.

amyjo Wrote:
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> There are Cohen lines and Levi lines that can
> trace their lineage back as far as King David.

No, there aren't. Unless by "trace" you mean "make things up."

> But they're of the tribe of Judah, and literal
> descendants going back as far as that.

The vast majority of Jewish rabbis will admit that there aren't any "tribes," and that the basis for them is fictional.

> The DNA supports their ancestral claims as to
> their origins.

No, it doesn't.

Back in the 70s there was a couple who were Jewish who attended our ward. The wife was a dear, sweet woman who was totally a true believer in Mormonism, but the husband would not allow her to be baptized. The husband claimed to be a descendant of Aaron. I can't remember now whether he was a baptized member or not. He wasn't baptized while I was there, but he may have already been a member. They were quite a bit older than me and I didn't know them all that well. I was a young mom.

I remember that he had hard feelings with the church because he believed he had the right to be bishop. I don't remember now whether he was a baptized member but wouldn't let his wife join because he was not given the lineal bishop responsibility, or if they were both perpetual "investigators" because he wouldn't be baptized unless he could be bishop.

I really liked the wife; the husband not so much. He was pretty full of himself. The wife called herself a "dry Mormon."

Do we get a prize if we do?

Well, archeology clearly shows -- and nearly all "bible scholars" agree -- that the entire Moses/exodus/Joshua tale is complete fiction, concocted after the Babylonian captivity to give the nation of Israel an heroic "backstory."

Which also means, of course, that "Aaron" is also fictional...and fictional people don't have descendants :)

ificouldhietokolob Wrote:
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> Well, archeology clearly shows -- and nearly all
> "bible scholars" agree -- that the entire
> Moses/exodus/Joshua tale is complete fiction,
> concocted after the Babylonian captivity to give
> the nation of Israel an heroic "backstory."
>
> Which also means, of course, that "Aaron" is also
> fictional...and fictional people don't have
> descendants :)


Well there goes my chances of winning a prize.

Aw, poor baby...

saucie Wrote:
> Well there goes my chances of winning a prize.

Sorry, saucie! You're already a prize in my book! :)

http://www.beliefnet.com/Faiths/Judaism/2004/12/Did-The-Exodus-Really-Happen.aspx?p=1#

ificouldhietokolob Wrote:
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> saucie Wrote:
> > Well there goes my chances of winning a prize.
>
> Sorry, saucie! You're already a prize in my book!
> :)
>
> http://www.beliefnet.com/Faiths/Judaism/2004/12/Di
> d-The-Exodus-Really-Happen.aspx?p=1#


I love it !!!!!!!!!

Well that's certainly an interesting view of the Hebrews.

Shummy Wrote:
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> Well that's certainly an interesting view of the
> Hebrews.


Boy ... the things we learn here on RFM!!!!!! Who knew ;)


Hahahhahahahhahahahhaha.

I generally don't ask people if they are a descendant of Aaron when I meet them. I don't want to be looked at like I'm nuts.

FIL was a Levite. He did join the church. He was also a flake and nobody would make him a bishop.

DH's ancestry goes back to Siberia, 12,000 years before the tribe of Judah allegedly comes into existence. He's also part Neanderthal.

I tellya Saucie, before I found RfM I was a total dumass but boy look at me now.

Shummy Wrote:
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> I tellya Saucie, before I found RfM I was a total
> dumass but boy look at me now.


Hey me too.... who knows what we might have never learned,

if we never came here?

Some people met this guy.

http://exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,967729,967880