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Posted by: gentlestrength ( )
Date: October 27, 2014 03:51PM

Late 1880's through 1890's

Scroll down a few pages to Chapter 12, page 239. It's worth the effort.


http://books.google.com/books?id=nOu7th-Y_DQC&pg=PA230&lpg=PA230&dq=%22hans+freece%22&source=bl&ots=qq798XdPjR&sig=RWbNJS2twsU0ubu0FDepya6pE-8&hl=en&sa=X&ei=TqBOVOysINS4oQSx84CgDw&ved=0CCIQ6AEwAzgU#v=onepage&q=%22hans%20freece%22&f=false

I hope this link works, it is quite long.


The LDS church has not been what it claims to be since its beginning in the 1830's. Because of this it has needed PR, lobbying, and indulgence. All things that can be purchased.

How does this play out. It appears cyclical as of now. Front page articles on the NY Times, early 1900's, early 2000's confirming it is not what it claims to be and yet it still moves.

The BIC to BIC cycle is powerful and effective. We find here routinely non-believers participating, albeit unwillingly, in the propagation of the Church in their own families.



Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 10/27/2014 04:09PM by gentlestrength.

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Posted by: gentlestrength ( )
Date: October 27, 2014 04:43PM

Yes, that is a goldmine and Givens is a lying sack of .....l

Perhaps Hans Mattsson is the son or grandson of happy Mormon Swedes. I am confident they were equally deceived and left in the dark about the doctrines and teachings of their Mormon faith.

Wickedness never was happiness. A well-know Mormon saying.

I will add.

Mormonism is wickedness. Therefore, Mormonism never was happiness.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/27/2014 04:53PM by gentlestrength.

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