Got held from going on a mission for feeling my girl friends boobs.
it was so worth it.
Anyone else do the walk of shame for
growing up normal. I dont think my bishop ever went through puberty..he treated me like id felt up his wife.

I was getting busy on a regular basis, putting me on a six month hold. I often wish I would have
taken that opportunity to run fast and hard away from all things LDS

Sounds like discrimination to me. If a teenage girl feels a boy's chest, she can go on a mission when she turns 19 or whenever else she wants. They don't delay her mission.

What happens if a person admits to having shoplifted a time or two?

They'd probably put you in charge of tithing collections.

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> They'd probably put you in charge of tithing
> collections.

LOL!! Good one!

You could be right. :)

But seriously, does anyone ever get the boot from the MTC or their mission for admitting to indiscretions which *aren't* sexual in nature?

As a never-mo. I don't understand the extreme focus by TSCC on sexual behaviors but apparently not seeing much wrong with gossiping, lying and stealing.

How could they fault someone who uses their same practices?

;^D

for me, it was 'only' ? wether or not I had done the BIG No-No, but that was Seattle, not Utah County/IMW.



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I banged my BYU girlfriend like a screen door in a hurricane for the entire school year prior to my mission.

I confessed to my Bishop, Stake Prez, and finally a G.A. The G.A. I spoke with (Henry D. Taylor) was a really nice, sweet, old guy and I couldn't bring myself to tell him everything I had done. When he shook my hand afterwards he said, "Be careful out there. There are plenty of women who would love to jump a missionary's bones." The fact that I wasn't struck by lightning as I headed to my car confirmed to me that there was no "power of discernment" with leaders of the church.

When I got to the MTC I felt guilty that I hadn't given full disclosure. I spoke with my Branch Prez, was kicked upstairs to MTC Prez, and was told to write letters home to my Bishop and Stake Prez. detailing what I had previously omitted. My Bishop and Stake Prez were cool and felt I should stay on my mission. MTC Prez and another G.A. (Carlos E. Asay) agreed, but in the process they pissed me off. I had a few "choice" words for them and then walked out of the MTC (after five weeks).

Hard to believe that was some 30+ years ago.

Apparently you were Mr. Unhappy back then. Glad you are Mr. Happy now.

Crap! I can't believe how innocent I was!

When I went on my mission, I had never done anything wrong. I didn't even know what masturbation was.

I wish I had known I could have been banging chicks at BYU without any consequences.

That's what I hate about his cult -- I felt like I lost my youth.

My convert daughter had been dating a young man the year before he left for his mission. As you know, while in the MTC there is enormous pressure to "confess all or the spirit will desert you and you'll be a failure as a missionary".

The poor kid held out as long as he could, but eventually went in and confessed to some heavy petting.

The a** he confessed to then called my DD on her cell phone and, with BF in the room, put her on speaker phone then proceeded to grill her about the details of her private relationship with BF in order to "confirm the sin".

This man did not know my DD and knew nothing about her other than she was a lowly convert. She was hysterical for days as he had told her to confess to her bishop and accept what ever steps to repentance dictated to her. She was certain that everyone in her student ward would hear about it and think she was a slut.

This "spokesman for God" also indicated that it was uncertain if BF would be allowed to stay at the MTC or would be sent home for a period of repentance. A decision that would referred up the line to a GA. Of course, that would make my DD responsible for his failure in the eye's of his family - because Stan had used her to lead this young man astray. (HE certainly wasn't responsible!)

I shudder to think what another young woman, possible mentally unstable, might have done if placed in that position. As it was, I was worried about her and kept in close contact until the resolution was announced. BF did remain at the MTC and went on his mission, That's the last I heard because she sent a "dear elder" letter six months later. It astonishes me that she remained a member of TSCC.

I totally believe this. I don't know how insane they are now, but years ago it was pretty much impossible to go on a mission without telling some lies along the way.

I did that. I went to my SP interview. He asked me if I kept the law of chastity. I said, sheepishly, "no." He said, "Umm, well (frowing and scowling like I had murdered someone)..you'll have to wait a year before you can go. I told you boys in Stake Preisthood session to be careful."

I had been dating a Hoottttt girlfriend (nomo) from highschool. Cheerleader and well endowed. Lord have mercy, and I was making out with her nightly. I findly did touch her twins, and yes, it was well worth it. Anyway, I explained all of this to the SP during the interview, and he said, "Oh is that all" and signed my form.

Are these punishments or rewards?

Damn I wish I had touched a breast as a kid and got held back for that. I was such a good boy. (well except for masturbating) But I was too scared to admit that to anyone thinking I was a terrible kid.

But I have to say...I never felt like I needed to confess that issue in the MTC. Cause it had been like a month and a half before I went in and I thought "OH good. God has fixed me! I don't do it anymore, he has answered my prayers!!! YEs thank you JESUS!"

I lasted like a month..month and a half and then masturbated again while my trainer was in the shower. I felt so low. Just thinking about it really really REALLY makes me mad at how the church made me feel.

I had a friend who was getting laid regularly.

He was forced to "go on a mission"

He just lied to each interviewer went on a two year vacation,aka mission,came home, married the girlfriend and lived happily everafter

In my interview with the bishop before leaving to the MTC he asked if there were things I needed to confess. I felt a bit guilty and told him that I looked at a lot of porn. He told me not to worry about that and that he used to look at a lot of porn before he joined the church. I guess I had a pretty laid back bishop.

I didn't get held back despite my own "explorations" (no intercourse, though).

Okay. Now this is bringing back horrible memories. Many years ago as I was preparing to go on a mission, I got carried away with my incredibly horny and hot girlfriend and we did the deed. I told my bishop. He made me wait 1 year. Yep, an entire year. I stifled myself and it really screwed up our relationship but we did not do anything that the Moron church would classify as a sin, we were like two old people with no sex drive...until about 2 weeks before I left for my mission. I was so horny one night we were alone and I couldn't keep my hands off her luscious boobs. That was it, nothing more than that but I felt as though I might as well be thrust down to hell immediately.

We both felt horrible. I lied through the final interviews, went to the MTC and confessed after a couple of weeks because they had me convinced that if I hadn't confessed something I would be a failure as a missionary. I had to write my bishop. He was pretty cool about it and life went on. I did my two years, and of course she met some guy while I was gone and banged his brains out and they got married out of the temple, then repented and went through the temple after the mandatory waiting period.

The guilt and shame and stress that the church put on me and on her I will never, ever forget. I hate that cult.

Up until the time I was 19, I banged my way through the girls in the ward, one by one. When it was time for me to go on my indoctranation mission, I confreesed to my bishop and stake prez. My stake prez was a closet perv. He gave me a pull down list of sexual indiscresions, boob touching, lips on boobs, finger insertsion, intercourse, oral....etc. He named them off people!!! I answered yes or no (mostly yes). He then asked me who the last girl was. I told him it was his neice that lived next door. I thought he was going to soil himself. I had to wait 6 months to go on my mission. It was worth it!!!

The MTC President when I was there was Pres.Pinegar a really tall,nice and humorous man.But that having to call your SP was what they did 25 years ago,if sex occurred before being ordained an elder,if it occurred after a GA had to be consulted it happened to a guy that I served along side with at the MTC,they let him continue to serve.

I was in the MTC during Pinegar's reign, too.

My first companion was a big, handsome guy who towered over me. I saw him crumble to pieces as he called his parents to say he was being sent back home to repent for an unresolved sin. I felt horrible for him.

Those idiots made me witness this private moment. I hadn't even done anything wrong, but they make you feel so guilty in there that I was sure I was unworthy for some reason.

Yup, Pinegar was the guy I dealt with as well. Besides writing my Bishop and Stake Prez, he wanted me to write a third letter...to my father. I told him that two out of three wasn't bad because there was NO WAY I was going to tell my father what I had done.

A week later I met with him again (with G.A. Carlos E. Asay) and spoke on the phone with my Stake Prez. After I hung up with him Pinegar said, "Oh, and by the way, we TOLD your father. He agrees that he wants you to stay out on your mission." At that point I got PISSED, called them "S.O.B's", told them I could no longer trust my leaders, had lost my desire to serve, and asked if them or I would make arrangements for me to leave.

They sat there stunned. I guess they were used to manipulating and messing with missionaries. I mean, what were the kids going to do...go home?? They did all they could to talk me out of leaving but this time they had screwed with the wrong missionary. I told them to shove their mission and I was out of there.

Wow. Rough way to exit, but I'm glad you got out earlier than most of us.
#blessingindisguise

Did any of you stop to think, or care about, what the girls you "explored", "laid", and "banged" went through after you confessed and went merrily on your way? Obviously, most of you couldn't care less.



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that 'goes with being young/horny' doesn't it?

hormones out-do responsibility and earning capacity 'every time'.

Nothing New here folks, move along.

The blabbing. Few have mentioned what happened to the girl.

http://exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,1409988



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> that 'goes with being young/horny' doesn't it?
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> hormones out-do responsibility and earning
> capacity 'every time'.
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> Nothing New here folks, move along.


Could you be any more of a jerk?

Before his "mission", my older brother was not only having sex with his TBM girlfriend, he was also sexually molesting me and my two sisters, and had been since we were 3, 5, and 6 years old. He went on his mission, but had evidently confessed about his girlfriend who then had to move out of the ward and leave her home to live with relatives because ward members were treating her like a slut. The girlfriend wrote and told him she didn't ever want to see him again. After my brother had left, I told our bishop what he had done to me and my sisters. The bishop did NOTHING!

My brother served an "honorable" mission - Zone Leader, AP, etc. A whole lot of people were at his homecoming. He was treated like royalty! The very night he got home he came into my room while I was sleeping and tried to sexually assault me. I was 12 years old.

A few days later I was cleaning up a closet and found a trunk in the back. It was full of pornographic magazines and sex toys from Brazil, where my brother had "served" his so called mission.

My sisters and I lived in terror. My parents, especially my dad, thought my brother was the most amazing child they had. Luckily, for us, he soon moved to college.

I told my mother what my brother had done all those years. She cried, and was so upset that this had happened to her little children, and then did NOTHING! A year, or so, later I brought it up again, and she had completely forgotten what I had told her!

My brother married in the temple, they had five children, and then he went on to have three children with another woman he carried on an affair with. His wife stayed with him. He is still a member in good standing with a temple recommend. A brother-in-law once stated that he was just living the law of plural marriage.

"Hormones out do responsibility."
"Nothing New here folks, move along."

You make me want to vomit!



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It sucks to be triggered. I'm trying to ground myself. I ball my hands into fists and feel my nails press into my palms. Sometimes it helps keep me in the present, but it doesn't change the past. That shit is with us forever.

Sweet Dear. :'(



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What happened to you and your sisters is reprehensible on so many levels, Cool Whip. My heart hurts just to read about it.

The pain your brother inflicted upon you girls was compounded by the prevailing male-biased culture in the church that even your own mother bought into. I wonder if she didn't retreat into denial as a coping mechanism. Whatever the reason, it was horribly unfair to you and your sisters.

Even though I think most of the guys who have been recounting their "escapades" in this thread were not involved in anything so heinous as what you describe and truly did not intend to cause harm to the girls they were involved with, your words, as well as those of other women commenting here, will hopefully raise the level of awareness for the guys on this board in terms of how these events should be discussed.

The last thing they should want to do is to carry on the church's tradition of treating women as something less than men.

These guys were dumb teenagers when they did these things, so, of course, most of them were not thinking too much about anyone but themselves at the time. It's unrealistic to expect that most boys that age would.

If you want to give these guys grief for reflecting back on their "glory days" without expressing some present-day regret for the unintended consequences of their actions on the girls involved, go right ahead...I suppose.

I believe most of that blame should fall at the feet of the church leaders for the insensitive manner in which things were handled. Unlike the boys, those grown men should have known better.

As self-centered as these guys as teenagers might have been, I doubt any of them intended harm or even had calloused disregard for the girls they were with.

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Yes, they might deserve to catch some crap for that.

They were juveniles when they did it, and they enjoyed it.

Perhaps that is shocking to you. Yes, for some of us, sex is fun. And I bet there are even some girls that enjoy it.

Actually I would like to hear some feedback from women,who were approached by SP/Bishop's in reference to something like "heavy petting" that the church leader became aware of via a confidential interview with a prospective missionary?I always thought it was weird that if you confessed to petting to your Bishop he would usually ask"was she a member?"I can only think of one reason they would want to know if she was Mormon.

Held back? Hell no. Kept from it. Bishop after bishop. I always talked about those trivial, no point to discuss it points in my life. Messed so many times just by talking to much. Sorry but certain things in my life will never be a posted on any board just it's just pointless for you to know. But yes I had issues and should of kept my mouth shut. Now looking back it didn't make a difference.

But I knew a guy who had a wet dream on his mission confessed it and was sent home only to be then rejected by his temple bride and family to be. He became a dreadlock looser and killed himself out of depression.... If only he never confessed such a petty sin he would be alive today and married that lady.
That mission president went onto commit adultry and was excomunicated, devoiced so he paid the price also for his arogant leadership and cruel behavior apon that missionary let alone while he was stake president beforehand, one of his councilors I knew commit suicide and beforehand came visit me and my grandmother and said he would give anything to exchange places and be a musician rather than serve under a mormon bible thumping leader who was self rightous and vain....

steady Eddie.