This is not me, thank goodness!! I was on my facebook page which has a yard sale site for eagle mountain, etc.

A lady was selling a doterra diffuser along with several oils, some opened some not.

This shit is expensive!! So in the comments someone asked her "why are you selling it"

she answered, I have colorectal cancer and have decided to go in a different direction with my health.

So this means she was trying to cure her cancer with this crap?

This just blows my mind!! She had stuff from both doterra and young living. Don't these companies feel any guilt that people are most likely dying using their products?

This really pisses me off and makes me sad too. I hope she gets the real help she needs before it's too late. Yes, she is mo.

I guess death is a different direction.

She has fallen prey to quackery.

I know...lots of folks around here will go to an ND and use that hocus pocus instead of seeking proper medical treatment where early intervention and surgery would save their lives....

Ron Burr

After leaving I was still under the Mormon culturally imposed belief system of chiropractic (people over 55 & from old, many generation church families have this culture of distrust of M.D.s). Followed the Chiropractor Counselor in the Bishopric & a family member didn't get the medical treatment should have gotten. Snake Oil Salesmen in the Church=Conned into fake treatments.

I believe that Farrah Fawcett and many other people have had every treatment that modern medicine could throw at them, and they still didn't make it.

I don't think alternative therapies are a good thing when dealing with cancer, but to each, his own.

Farrah Fawcett had anal cancer and initially refused traditional therapy which included a colostomy, she went a "different direction" initially, followed by tragic results

Steve Jobs really screwed himself over by not getting real medical treatment after his cancer diagnosis.

Wasn't he too sick at that point to be considered a good candidate? Same thing with Gene Hagman. I'm an organ donor, and if my organs are useful, I hope they don't go to the highest bidder.

Some people make the choice not to fight. If I had very low odds I doubt I would and would rather spend my time not at a Drs.

I have a chiropractor. She treats my back and has been a miracle worker on several occasions. She NOT LDS. She is however, very gifted at what she does, and very nice...and smokin' hot...which ain't a bad thing.

Ron Burr

Colon cancer is tough to beat. For those of you that are 50 or older, get your colonoscopy done. It's one of the easier procedures I've had. I went to sleep and was none the wiser. All the people at the practice were fantastic and respectful.

My stepmom did not have her colonoscopy and she wishes she had. She died of colon cancer after a five year battle. Catching it early or removing polyps before they turn into cancer may have saved her. She went through some horrible surgery and even the radiation did something that made her back hurt badly. She put up a good front.

Oils are not going to cure colon cancer and they aren't going to prevent it. If they did, there'd be evidence of success. So far, I have seen none.

Early detection and treatment are key. Good doctors are also a must. I haven't had colon cancer but I battled breast cancer. They couldn't do all the normal protocols on me because of another health problem I have but the doctor came up with a great plan. It's been nearly ten years and I'm good.

It doesn't hurt to get information from reputable sources. I read a book where the doctor discussed treatments and alternative treatments and she dispelled the myths that are out there. Glad that was one I read.

Funny story about my oncologist. He turned me on to the book "Under the Banner of Heaven". I'd told him I was from Utah and not exactly a practicing mormon and he thought I'd like reading it. He was right. He is the best test doctor I've ever had, and he's also a nice guy.



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"It's one of the easier procedures I've had. I went to sleep and was none the wiser."

Well, true that. But not the pre-procedures, medical approvals, insurance authorizations, rides to and from, bills, subsequent return to normal eating, missing (at least) a couple days of work.

Yes, I'm all for getting one as you suggest. It's not surgery, but from beginning to end <snicker> it's no walk in the park, either.

That's funny, about the book. Great book!! My brother confiscated it from my house when he was visiting once...my lil sis told me and I just laughed. HOpe he read it!!

My dad died of pancreatic cancer, which they were pretty sure had metastasized from previous colon cancer. They caught the colon cancer early though he was almost 60. Back then they weren't doing the 50 thing so much. So he had surgery and no radiation or chemo. Died 6 years later of pancreatic. He was only 66, one year after he retired. Mom died 10 months later.

So yeah, Ive had one colonoscopy. I have 6 siblings. Two have had polyps. I didn't but I am overdue another test. I am only 47, had first when iwas 39 I think. lil brother has polyps, lil sis, and older brother. oh, so 3 of them.

Oldest brother is 53 and only had one so far. he is high risk, he is in heart failure, weighs 425 lbs, and is a jerk if you question him. I worry he will die from something, as we all will.

but yeah, it really pisses me off that people get cancer period. Then to try to treat it with oils? This was over 300 dollars of stuff she was selling. I hope she can get through it. She is a young mom. That sucks.

I am surrounded by oils idiots though. If I had cancer I would head to the huntsman cancer institute and get the best my insurance will do.

oils........they may work for some things.....

They are still buying Joseph's story, what does that say for their credulity?

Cancer sucks, that's for sure. I was mad that I got it. I was the only one in my family other than an old aunt to get it. I've already been through other stuff my whole entire life and I was super upset when I found out I had breast cancer. They saw it on my first mammo. When they called me back for a retake, I thought nothing of it. I've heard that happens and I am famous for flinching during x-rays. Instead of a retake they did an ultrasound and a biopsy. I never expected all that and I was by myself. It might have been nice if they'd given me just a little hint when they called me to come back. That was a crazy time. My PCP recommended two of the best doctors at the big hospital downtown. I'm so glad he did. I hated traveling that far but it was worth it.

My niece was trying to tell me that there were oils that might help me and I shot her right down. She still believes in them. I just don't get it. She's TBM be she's not annoying about it and she's very driven in her career. She just seems too smart to have gotten into that.



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I saw a fundraiser for a family whose father died from influenza, and now the mother is dying of cancer. People are posting that they should try such and such natural oil.
My own TBM friend is into one of those vitamin mlms that are supposed to heal all sorts of things. She's taken her kids off their medication to put them on these vitamins.

I was diagnosed with colon cancer 14 years ago at the age of 41. As it was at the early stages (Dukes 1) my specialist said I would only need a resection not chemo as it was highly unlikely to spread, indeed he had never had a patient develop secondaries from a Dukes 1 tumour. At the time I was happy to go along with that as I really did not fancy chemo. Forward two and a half years and a secondary on my liver was discovered at one of my check-ups. (I still hold the unenviable record as the only one of his Dukes 1 patients to metastasise). There followed a liver resection and a very unpleasant course of chemotherapy. That was over 10 years ago now and I no longer have to have check-ups. The thought of eschewing conventional treatment in favour of oils is totally incomprehensible to me; yes, conventional treatment is unpleasant but surely it is worth it if there is the slightest chance of survival?

I would take this opportunity to advise everyone to take advantage of any cancer type test they are offered. I was lucky as my cancer was discovered quite by accident as I had no symptoms at the time, but early treatment helped to save my life. My specialist said that bowel cancer at my age was likely to be hereditary and said that my children should start being tested from the age of 31. So far I have been unsuccessful at persuading my eldest to be tested.

I think Hank would view alternative forms of treatment as leaving town early without his permission. He definitely won't give them a million dollars. Instead, he'll kick the shit out of them for refusing real treatment...

My take from the OP's post is that she was using the oils for her health, and then found out she has colorectal cancer and decided not to continue with the oils. She's probably trying not to have to explain her decision to get conventional treatment, which I applaud.

And the aside to that is that the oils didn't prevent her from getting cancer.

some opened, some not.

I just had a checkup with my family doctor, and as I had just turned fifty, he told me that they are no longer recommending colonoscopies as a matter of course. They were recommending testing your stool once a year instead. He also mentioned that they (they being the medical profession) are also no longer recommending prostrate exams. He said that there was a comprehensive ten year study done and the conclusion was that as many men were dying after that ten year period of screening as there was before screening started.

I'll be doing the colonoscopy just to be safe, then figure out what type of process or schedule going forward.

Interesting. Thanks for sharing that.

Family history factors in. My grandfather died of colon cancer and as a result my father gets annual colonscopies. When I hit 45 I will be too.

Certainly family history would be very important. In my family there isn't any history of these types of cancer so that's part of the consideration. I was just a little surprised about hearing about these changes. Of course, this is just from my family doctor, and I'm certainly not stating anything as fact, just mentioning what I had been told.

Interesting stuff.

You guys on here are nuts. I am a chiropractor, and I am NOT a mormon. I am a saved child of Jesus Christ. I probably have done about 75000 patient adjustments. I also have a patient with stage 3 colon cancer that the doctors give a 65% chance of surviving 5 years with chemo, radiation, surgery and again chemo. Would you really do that just to survive 5 years? Would you let them tell you that you can only live 5 years? They have no right to proclaim that. Only God has the authority to say how long I will live. So, he chose to forego the rigors of "modern medicine" that has been proven to not help in any way except the pockets of drug companies and doctors. He chose to try natural healing and for all of you that say it's quackery has a skewed mind. I hope one day you open your hearts and minds to the fact that there is indeed healing in this world beyond medicine. The ususal routine of modern medicine did not save my mom or dad or my best friend or recently a lovely patient who all died of cancer. Research isn't looking for cures except through pharmaceuticals. They squash any natural opportunites out there.

I'll take antibiotics over having my toddler's spine manipulated *any day*.

To KJFreeze. I wasn't going to post but you are really doing people a disservice by acting like you are such a fucking expert. I'm 51. When I was 41 I had a seizure and was diagnosed with brain cancer. It's too long of a story to post here, but my incredibly smart husband took the matter into is own hands and researched the living fuck out of brain cancer. I ended up being seen at UCLA after getting 4 opinions. I went on an oral chemo for 2 years (5 days on, 25 off). I still have it but it has shrunk to almost nothing. My quality of life has been excellent! I got to see all three kids graduate high school and college. So FUCK YOU. Every situation is different and no FUCKING oil is going to do the job. I also was diagnosed with stage one breast cancer at the age of 44 by me finding my own lump. So the new requirements for women not to do self breast examinations (heard about that a couple years ago) is ridiculous. Also get your damn mammograms just ask this very important question "what is my breast density?".. I found out that I had very dense breasts (after the fact). If you have dense breast you may need to have an ultrasound too because lesions may or may not show up on a mammogram. Be your own advocate and do your own research. I think I know enough about cancer to tell you that KJFreeze is acting irresponsiblely

"I also have a patient with stage 3 colon cancer that the doctors give a 65% chance of surviving 5 years with chemo, radiation, surgery and again chemo. Would you really do that just to survive 5 years? "

Hell yes. In the last eight years I have had two rounds of chemo (six months each) and currently taking oral chemo (for the rest of my life). Without treatment I'd be dead four years ago.

KJFreeze, Sometimes people die when they have treatment. Most assuredly they die without it.

Folks, get screened, get regular checkups from a Dr. you can talk to. Also, if something is found - get a second opinion from an expert in whatever you have.

EXACTLY!