Do you know how RIDICULOUSLY HARD it is to obtain sexual fulfillment in our society? Marriage is not even financially possible for most people until their mid twenties. Many marriages have little or no sex. Divorce is common.

Pornography is a way to ease the pain. It reduces the sexual frustration in society, and so it is a good thing. As Napoleon said, using the word pornography in place of prostitution, "Without pornography, men would attack women in the streets!"

Without pornography there would be MORE children born out of wedlock. Think about that. Would you rather have a society with fewer children on welfare, or a society where pornography is illegal?

All this Mormon talk about pornography is insane.

But I'm scratching my head your sexual fulfillment statement.

I agree with you that there's good things about pornography.

But I disagree that it's ridiculously hard to have sexual fulfillment in our society. I guess it depends on how you are as a person, but if you're the right kind of person, and you put yourself in the right kind of situations, you can plenty of promiscuous sex.

I agree overall with what you say though. Most males NEED sexual fulfillment, just as much as they need water and food. If it's not through actual sex, they'll get it through other means (porn being a common one). I'm sure most mormons use porn anyway, they're humans at the end of the day.

Hey... porn led me to my sweet husband. I say, long live porn!

Ok, there's a story there that needs telling. ;)

;-) I may have to blog about it. I met him in 1999. Yes, it was on a porn site/chat room... but no, we weren't really talking about porn at the time. Neither was anyone else.

We were both lonely and ridiculously inexperienced for our ages. He had separated from his ex wife, who had gone all TBM. I had just started grad school and was a virgin. We struck up a friendship. But it took over a year and a half before we met in person and when we did meet, he was divorced. Ex had decided that he needed to be in "therapy" because he had looked at a porn site (never mind that she was playing Dungeons and Dragons at the time and had met her third husband there).

But yes, it is a ridiculous story... kind of embarrassing. My mom knows we met online, but not where. She would be shocked if she knew. My husband's mother, who is very cool and never got along with his ex, knows the truth. We are a very normal couple and no longer have a need for porn because we have each other. But if it weren't for porn, we probably never would have met.

And shoot... my husband's very estranged kids are grown anyway, so maybe it is time I wrote the truth.

Very cool.

I will say this. Meeting where we did was helpful in that we established from the get go what turned us on. Turns out we are very sexually compatible. I think how we met was a blessing because I am with a guy who knows what I like. It was one of the first things he ever knew about me. We never had to have any weird discussions about it. There was never any awkwardness. I met him in person in May 2001 having met him online in November 1999. And we married in November 2002. I was still a virgin on my wedding day, but he knew what rang my chimes. Almost 11 years later, we are still in love.

I can see why people don't like porn, but honestly, I might still be single if not for that site where I met my husband.

Met my husband on alt.com I told family and friends it was in a yahoo chat group. Sometimes ya just gotta lie :-D

That's pretty much what I did. I have an obnoxious sister who gave me crap over it, trying to find out the "truth". If she really knew, it would probably shock her.

behindcurtain Wrote:
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> Do you know how RIDICULOUSLY HARD it is to obtain
> sexual fulfillment in our society? Marriage

I think I found your problem...


(seriously tho - sorry to all those trapped in sexless marriages)

Porn and masturbation are a way to release large amounts of dopamine at one time without any effort, well not much at least.

Civilized life seems to make dopamine spikes hard to come by from both sexual and non-sexual sources in part from desensitization, but also isolation from opportunities that are out of reach.

Here's an on the spot theory:

Primates that cooperate in groups are very sexual and seem to use sex to reduce conflict. Maybe we evolved to produce large dopamine and oxytocin spikes regularly to reduce our stress and negative emotions caused by social interactions we have throughout the day.

If frequent hormone spikes in the right context are beneficial to mental health, then reasonable pornography use could be seen as a type of temporary, but healthy coping strategy in the absence of readily available sources of dopamine and oxytocin for people whose circumstances don't provide sexual partners or many social bonds.

My own opinion is that frequent porn use can cloud our appetite for non-pornographic dopamine activities (real life) and it is probably best for most people to moderate their use to no more than once a week (less for some) to maintain their dopamine receptor sensitivity to real sex and motivation for their goals.



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 09/07/2013 01:49AM by Brian M.

bullshit get a gal from the club. if she cant fullfill ya dump her for another. porn is too empty and drains the living shit ought of you. course you probably argue that never happens. do it for 4 hrs a day and watch your life be drained away as your brain looses the ability to connect to people.

damn that censored quick.

lol - some words automatically do that

see: shit / sh!t

I think you probably have a very narrow idea of what porn is. Meaning... I'm a hetero woman who looks at porn that contains only bare nekkid men. I'm not sure how your "Without pornography, men would attack women in the streets" really applies to me.