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Posted by: Pixie Dust ( )
Date: August 14, 2013 09:55PM


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Posted by: MJ ( )
Date: August 14, 2013 10:00PM


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Posted by: jacob ( )
Date: August 14, 2013 10:00PM

I'm not sure, might you be asking about existentialism?

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Posted by: Pixie Dust ( )
Date: August 14, 2013 10:02PM

No, I received this term in a friend's email. And was too afraid to ask. So.... I thought I would ask my Ex-Mo friends.

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Posted by: MJ ( )
Date: August 14, 2013 10:03PM


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Posted by: jacob ( )
Date: August 14, 2013 10:17PM

Just to clarify an atheist is someone who in some form or another has no belief in a god. A nihilist is someone who rejects what someone might call subjective truths.

One might also be a nihilist about somethings and not about others. For example I am a moral nihilist but not an existential nihilist. I still reject subjective truths about my existence but instead of assigning no meaning I am what is called an existentialist, that means that I am responsible for the meaning that my life has.

Atheistic nihilism makes no sense.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/14/2013 10:21PM by jacob.

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Posted by: Uncle Dale ( )
Date: August 14, 2013 10:08PM

I suppose it might be a term attempting to portray
the mindset of an atheist who concluded that his/her
life had no meaning or useful purpose.

A theistic nihilist might conversely be a theist who
preached that earthly existence was a negative thing --
perhaps a fellow waiting for the Rapture, who found
life on this planet to be useless/meaningless.

All in all, it sounds like a mental disorder to me.
If life was indeed purposeless, then our ancestors
would not have bothered to keep humanity going.

UD

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Posted by: the god of thunder ( )
Date: August 14, 2013 10:11PM

It was mentioned on the Atheist Experience the other day. It means nothing. Their is no purpose to life and other things. Here's a link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihilism.

Hope this helps.

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Posted by: MJ ( )
Date: August 14, 2013 10:15PM

And lists forms of nihillism:


1.1 Metaphysical nihilism
1.2 Epistemological nihilism
1.3 Mereological nihilism
1.4 Existential nihilism
1.5 Moral nihilism
1.6 Political nihilism

It says nothing about "atheistic nihilism". It is made up BS.

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Posted by: Kismet ( )
Date: August 14, 2013 10:13PM

A lot of theists assume that atheists have to be nihilists by definition. In fact, I saw someone posit that very idea on this board just a little while ago. That without a belief in God, life is without meaning. So maybe that is what your friend is referring to? Nihilism that they believe stems from atheism?

Of course, the assumption that all atheists are ipso facto nihilists is baseless. Atheists are not required to be nihilists; they're only required to not be theists. And nihilism doesn't necessarily follow from a lack of theism. But maybe your friend doesn't know that.

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Posted by: Snickers ( )
Date: August 14, 2013 10:15PM

Post-Santa Claus Disillusionment Trauma Syndrome (PSCDTS). Check with Benson.

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Posted by: axeldc ( )
Date: August 15, 2013 09:36AM


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Posted by: mootman ( )
Date: August 14, 2013 10:28PM


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Posted by: Richard Foxe ( )
Date: August 15, 2013 06:42AM

as a distinct phrase (set off in quotation marks). Evidently a single person didn't make it up.

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Posted by: quinlansolo ( )
Date: August 15, 2013 09:11AM


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Posted by: kolobian ( )
Date: August 15, 2013 10:46AM

It's a pitiful attempt on the part of some irresponsible theists to paint atheists as living meaningless lives of no consequence.

The problem with this is obvious:

1. Does life have meaning in and of itself?
or
2. Does life have meaning because a god said so?

Externally imposed meaning/purpose (even if from a god) is just that: externally imposed. If a theist gets their purpose from a god then they are also admitting that life has no intrinsic meaning in and of itself.

Many atheists, like myself, create our own meaning and purpose. We don't rent our purpose from a religion.

As I said on another thread:

- I don't ask other people what my favorite flavor of ice cream should be

- I don't ask other people what my favorite color should be

- I don't ask other people who I should be in a relationship with

_ I certainly don't ask other people what my purpose in life should be

The point is, if life has purpose it's not because a god said so; it's because we say so.

So no, atheists are not necessarily nihilistic..

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Posted by: blueorchid ( )
Date: August 15, 2013 10:54AM

Absolutely!

When I left God behind, religious constraint behind, all of the millions of years of evolution in my genes rushed to the surface and gave more meaning to my life in a single second than I had ever felt previously in all my years in Mormonism.

The miracle of life is in each of us and has gotten better everyday since that first fish crawled out of the sea on tiny legs.

Our need for connection, for accomplishment, for love, and even to see those around us happy are components we only need to allow to blossom--not be bestowed upon us by some imaginary being.

And all the goodness within us as atheists is genuine because we seek no reward other than the smile on someone else's face.

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Posted by: upsidedown ( )
Date: August 15, 2013 12:26PM

Kolobian puts the discussion into a very accurate description of atheism and the reason why it is not always necessary to be nihilist. It is more common to meet atheist that feel that their life has meaning.

I think that my life has a more personal meaning now to me because I have made the choice to be atheist due to the searching that I have had to do in finding what it is that I like to do and not just doing what a group or a organization tells me to do and believe.

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Posted by: Makurosu ( )
Date: August 15, 2013 10:49AM

It used to be popular years ago to accuse atheists of being "nihilists." It's just someone lashing out against atheists. Nihilism is something completely different.

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Posted by: spaghetti oh ( )
Date: August 15, 2013 11:23AM

"Nihilists! Fuck me. I mean, say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos."

;-)

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Posted by: Itzpapalotl ( )
Date: August 15, 2013 12:02PM

"No, Donny, these men are nihilists, there's nothing to be afraid of."

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Posted by: Xq ( )
Date: August 15, 2013 12:10PM

The phrase has no particular, specific meaning.
However, atheists who are nihilists do exist.

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