Somthing hilariously tragic happened today... You see, I have a very large stuffed bear that I like to leave in random places for good humour and sometimes dress it in peoples clothes and it looks pretty adorable. Well me and a couple friends decided we would dress it in my fathers garments and put it in his bed to look like him, he actually thought it was funny afterwards and he's the high priest group leader. Well before we did that we took a picture and sent it to one of my other friends, this was two or more months ago. Well it turns out that this friend's phone (who is 19) still has her texts monitored by her parents. Fast forward to now, the parents have discovered this picture in their text archives (which is actually cute and not meant to be disrespectful at all) and proceeded to inform the bishop of my heresy. Now today I got a request for a meeting with the bishop out of nowhere and informed me that I am immature and will be having the recieving of the melchezidek priesthood delayed and endowments delayed until further notice for "desecrating temple garments". Garments touch your junk, how juch more could you desecrate something? Im still in shock and laughing over how serious he was over this. Im more immature than the 38 year old that ratted me out like a 5 year old? wtf just happened.

I wish I'd dressed up a bear and taken it to the mall--if it would have gotten me out of wearing those wretched things for 21 years. Keep the disrespect going and mean it.

How is your recovery from Mormonism going?

I think some see us as a frivolous vent for their Mormon Customer Service Issues.

Fire you Mormon bishop, then tell me a story about dressing your teddy bear in your dad's underwear.

Sheesh.

I didn't know you had to be officially out of the church to post here. Were you one of those judgmental self righteous pricks when you were a TBM?

Hardly, that's one of the reasons I left.

What was the point of the post?

I am disgusted that Mormons would use a former Mormon or recovering from Mormonism forum to bitch about their religion or Church operations. What the hell do we care?

Bitch about being a Mormon amongst Mormons. I didn't leave Mormonism because I was held back for disrespecting Mormon garments. I left Mormonism because it is a repulsive culture.

So answer the question. What was the point of the bitch post? Why here on RFM?

As to your attacks and insults. Pound yourself.



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Some of us are educated, enlightened or mightily amused by these NOM posts. We understand that not everyone is lucky enough to just walk away on short notice.

Not everyone has to take the exact same journey that you did.

Hardly a NOM, preparing for temple, mission.

What do you mean lucky enough to walk away on short notice?

Do you understand the point of the post?



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of you verbally slamming posters who have not actually left the church yet, or who don't approach their journey out of the church the way you think they should. I don't think being harsh or judgemental is helpful to them. They have a right to be here, and to talk about their issues. Not everyone is in the same place on their journey out. Nor will every topic seem relevant to you.

I think this topic IS relevant to the board. Something like this incident could help someone realize how messed up the LDS church community is, and encourage him to leave sooner, rather than later.

Note to original poster, c48gl: Don't take anything anyone says personally. We all have our own way of seeing things, and what we say on the board grows directly out of our own attitude and experiences. There is no requirement that you have to be an exmormon to post, and the only rules about posting topics are posted on this website. Basically: no preaching, no politics, no marketing your stuff, no cussing in the subline, keep everything pg-13 or less, and nothing abusive to other posters.

As far as the bishop goes, I think you should just call him back tell him that you didn't mean to offend anyone and you won't do this again. Nobody was hurt by what you did. But do NOT grovel. This should only require a simple apology, and I would tell him that if he pushes to make it bigger than it is. I wouldn't meet with him. IF he pushes, reiterate that you've moved past this, there is nothing else that you can do other than apologize. Maybe ask if he's having a problem forgiving, and remind him that the Bible says he's supposed to forgive 70X7. (LOL, just kidding). But seriously, if there's a God, it would be between you and HIM, not the bishop and you. And furthermore, if this will delay your priesthood advancement, then you understand and maybe it's for the best (or something like that). Take away his power to punish you.

The truth of it is that if you didn't mean any harm, and you won't do it again, that should be all that's expected. If he refuses to forgive, or requires shame and punishment, that's a huge red flag that this isn't about the garments at all. It's about control and shame. Which it probably is.

I saw you talking about getting a temple marriage in another post. Seeking a recommend is a really good way to put this jerk bishop in control of your life.

Slamming, calling out.

If you want to take Mormon complaints about Mormonism and Mormon operations, be my guest. He's a Mormon being punished for disrespecting sacred Mormon underwear. I want to point out that being a Mormon is a choice. Did you notice that in my original post as well?

Fire the bishop, don't negotiate with him.

In the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.

I didn't mention that he is highly disrespectful of his father, maybe that is his style or his family style. Felt pointing that out was superfluous and less important than pointing out he could fire his Mormon bishop rather than negotiate with him.



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It used to be that you HAD to wear garments during sex and now teddy bear's are evil? *snort*

wait, you used to have to wear garments during sex? thats no fun

c48gl Wrote:
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> wait, you used to have to wear garments during
> sex? thats no fun


No joke there. When I was your age my bishop made it a rule that he would hold a church court for any man that had sex without his garments on.

You need to not give so much info about yourself. The cult will track you down and send what you write to your bishop.

If they assume this bear thing was an isolated insodent. For all they know it happens all the time.

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I am going to try to get these redone with the little BoM this summer.

Your story reminded me of when I would do the laundry and get SCREAMED at if the ugly things so much as touched the floor.

Aw, those teddy bears are so cute!!!

Oh that really is a thing? They can't touch the ground? I didn't beleive it when someone told me that. I always left them on the floor.

My parent's dirty garments are always on the floor. They are in their 70's. I've never heard of that rule and apparently, neither did they.

Now I realize I was just too little to be able to do laundry. I couldn't reach the clothesline well, couldn't lift the laundry basket and could not understand how to fold the one piecers without having sleeves and legs twisted through the back slit. We had a big family with massive amounts of one day a week laundry and some of it dragged on the floor when being hauled to and from the laundry room and line. But if a holy garment leg dragged there would be hell to pay.

The worst was when all the clothes would be finally hanging to dry and I'd find a wadded garment at the bottom of the basket and no place left to hang it except where gentiles might see it from the highway. I'd think no one would notice but the older siblings would tattle and I'd get a beating, then sulk and cry for days.

Helping around the house is a good thing for kids but not beatings for doing jobs too big for their age.

Please make me a temple garb wearing one!

I have the green fabric for the apron.

:-)

I can't read the name tags. Too Damn cute. What are their names? Elder Bear A. Testimony and Elder Orso Prattle?

Isn't that Elder Price and Elder Cunningham???????

The bishop got everything all mixed up and accidentally gave you a reward as opposed to a punishment. Shhhhh!

It's celebration time! No endowments for you....at least for now. :-)

If you are posting tales gloating that you are mocking LDS garments to an Exmo board, then you shouldn't get the Priesthood nor should you go to the temple.

Sure, their games are silly, but why do you want to play them?

Go to cesletter.com, then come back and tell us about it.

Can they get any more stupid?
Many church leaders on the local level are a bunch of self-important azzholes.

Just stop going to church.
Problem solved.

You won't get pressured to go on a stupid mission either.

So how are you suppose to know anything about garments when you have been taught nothing about them in church?

I'm with Leah. Stop going to church. This may be the best thing that ever happened to you. God works in mysterious days! LOLOL

If I were you, I would inform the Bishop that you have prayed about it and since you have no remorse for your actions, it would only be right to make your punishment permanent. Then when his attitude flips and he comes back practically begging you to be ordained to the Mel. priesthood and taking out your endowments, email him a picture of the bear in temple garb giving the finger.

Can't imagine what your idiot Bishop would do to me if he found out I took a pet monkey through the Salt Lake Temple. He kept quiet as he was not well and when I showed him to my Wife in the Celestial Room after we went throug the veil I thought her shriek of surprise and then laughing would have us thrown out.

So, a Temple Monk lives with us... or he did as he has passed on now. I hope he remembers his new name.

There is a good lesson in this story for everyone. Do not take photos and send them to anyone that you don't want shown to other people or put on the Internet. This is huge, huge problem today.

The other lesson: Mormons are typically major tattle tales. They are often like little kids telling tales, starting rumors, getting their exercise jumping to conclusions and running other people down. It's the: Gotcha Game Nener-nener!!

Now, I'd suggest your father talk to the bishop!



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The best thing that can be learned from this:

If you don't want to go on a mission, dress a stuffed animal up in garments and send the pic to everyone in the ward. Mission accomplished.

And if you're worried about further desecration, garments sometimes (if you're not careful) get skid marks (the Mormon technical term is "Shiz marks). I'm surprised that Mormons don't make you go through some sort of ceremonial procedure for inadvertently getting Shiz marks on your garments.

Your case has been assigned support ticket #409592.


A member of the local Stake Presidency has been notified about your problem, and a representative will be there within 24-48 hours to have a talk with your bishop.


Please continue giving 10% of your income to ensure your case has a timely resolution.

In the future, you will hopefully look back on this incident (as an ex-Mormon) as the one that really crystallized the stupidity and insane control that is Mormonism. I wish you good luck!