For those who don't resign because they don't want to acknowledge Mormon authority.
Is this the same thing?
Is this also a matter for the police (perhaps not, but foreign country)
Journalist ( I believe so). someone in an American city with either a lot of Mormons or high national profile.
I suggest
Salt Lake Tribune San Francisco Chrinice Arizona Republic New York Times
Perhaps it is nice for OP to have a Church Court of Love. Would be better for many to have this amplified as part of an exposé of the Mormon male priesthood abuse of women. One of thousands of stories, bad, but there are much worse.
If handled internally there may be consequences for the bishop, but most certainly no External consequences for Mormonism. It will be swept under the rug.
Who cares if some horny Mormon bishop is shut down, I guess it is good for the women, but they can shut it down themselves by telling him to piss off and leave them alone.
Experiences like this are most valuable in the light of public scrutiny. Oh, the Mormons, that cult with the lay clergy that have no training, no professionalism in their leadership, just a bunch of horny guys trying to get some sex using religion since 1830.
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I took some of his email apart with added commentary. He is sick and needs to be reported to Salt Lake Headquarters with a registered letter and sent to more than one apostle. Threaten them with media blogging etc. to get the man off your back!
I know you and BF do not only holding hands, don’t you? I am justified in wanting some of that action because you’re a fornicator.
Having an “interview” was a dumb idea. Especially since you can’t lock the door.
What? Does he want to lock the door to keep others out or prevent your escape while he rapes you on the desk????
If BF is on night shift we could have dinner…. This sounds like Joseph Smith telling someone when Emma was away from the house and they could come over and cuddle up to Joseph , but they would have to be careful sneaking in and out of the house!
My Wife; there is nothing anymore. She’d probably be surprised to hear it! Many adulterers use that tired old excuse to start up illicit relationships while keeping up full intimate activity with their spouses.
We could meet every other day except Mondays. For what? What a libido! Every other day?
I’m impatient I’ll probably resort to force to get my way.
I don’t want to stalk you. And what do you call this email?????? And touching and grooming? It is stalking. I’d hate to see what he thought was ‘stalking”.!
Get help, maybe a restraining order and stick close to your BF. Also do not sit with him or be near him at church since you have to go there. I hope you get the help you need to get rid of this creep.
Monday is FHE, even in Germany, even for a dunbass Mormon bishop. I didn't leave for such a reason, but being that the Mormon church is a proven fraud, cult, and puts people in a subordinate position to dumbasses like this.....
Why do people remain Mormon? Special needs, that only being a Mormon can meet?!?
Since he sent me some more awkward mails - where he was dumb and horny enough to describe en detail what he is going to do with me, (gross and disturbing, he def watches porn) and yesterday another one were he complained about that I haven't come to church, how disappointed and how sad he is now and he totally "wants to come accidentally over to my house". I printed them all with the header and keep them on my inbox, too. I sent it all by registered mail. To SP, MP, his Counselors... we will see what happens.
In Deutschland wenn das die Runde macht wird er so schnell kein Bischoff mehr bleiben oder werden. Das hast du sehr gut gemacht. Hoffentlich hat seine Ehefrau auch einen Brief per Einschreiben bekommen damit sie auch lesen darf was ihr Mann so an andere Frauen schreibt.
Yes I am save. I used tonwork in a closed psychiatric hospital unit. So actually I know how to handle people who don't respect physical boundaries of others. And after I got over the initial shocking moment of his molesting behavior I am sure I will use my knowledge if necessary.
I applaud you for your courage in bringing to light the obsessive and abusive behavior of this bishop. I hope his ecclesiastical superiors do what is right and remove him not only from his position as bishop but also from the church. Please stay safe and keep a watchful eye on your surroundings.
This is really good to hear, newnameabigail! And I am very glad you have some training to fall back on. I really hope this creep receives some justice, because he's undoubtedly done it before and wants to do it again. Your average Molly mormon has no idea how to resist such "godly" attentions. Ol Joe counted on it, and so does this creep. Thank you for taking a stand!
Chances are you are not the first woman this has happened to. And your actions could help prevent it happening to more, potentially more vulnerable, women.
I am amazed that in all the threads on this that no one has challenged the legitimacy of these claims.
I will say first off that if this really is real then it's a big deal and it should be escalated so that he is accountable for his actions. And I'm sorry you have had to go through this.
However, I am deeply suspicious that an in office bishop, whatever a closeted perverted horndog he is, would be foolish enough to behave in this manner. In particular the risky behaviour during church, but even more so being foolish enough to put anything incriminating in an email, especially after you had already shown your anger and distaste towards him.
So many here want to find negative things about the morg to such an extent they'll believe anything negative anyone says about them. I just want to state I find these claims very hard to believe,and perhaps think this is some weird trolling or attention seeking.
Again I'll repeat that if this is real you have my sympathy, but I'm very suspicious.
I know what had happen and I know how he behave. I have all the evidence that shows his molesting behavior against me. I know about all my personal ambivalence to report him or not, how to act or not. And I really had to fight with my inner self to forward this to his superiors.
If I want to troll or seek for attention I definitely wouldn't do it under my screen name.
For several reasons I wouldn't provide his last emails nor his or my real identity on this board. I have a life that I have to cont after, I have to protect my own personality.
The last ones were very intrusive and full of explicit content. (porn) I even wouldn't put them public when censored.
See this is the problem in such cases. The victim has to prove that these things had happen. And you really think I should let "escalate" things to make him accountable? I should take risk to get raped by a psycho? Are you serious? Would you do? Where would you draw the line to have enough evidence?
Being an "in office bishop" doesn't protect you from acting like a horny obsessed idiot. He began to escalate after I refused him. This is sick and mental distorted.
I have no idea how I would respond in such a difficult situation.
What I want to convey, is that if this is true then it's unusual. Predators within church leadership happens, ones as cavalier and careless as this is very unusual. This guy as you describe him is a ticking time bomb. Usually people with as much to lose as him would be much more subtle and considered.
I'm not convinced you are for real, but my opinion doesn't really matter. If this is real I hope you can find a resolution that you feel is just. If you are making this up it's very sad for you.
I mean no offense, but I too am somewhat suspicious of this post--both the purported events and the syntax of the poster. I could be wrong, and apologise in advance if I am, but my BS meter is going off pretty strong.
That took brains and guts, Abigail. Nice work. I just hope the priesthood leaders you sent the info to have the same level of moral courage. This guy is trouble. Stay safe!
I am worried that the first question to you from the SP is "Where Else did you report these doings?" And if your answer is "nowhere." That WHEN they try to slip this matter under the rug as usual you might STILL be up the creek. Therefore, I suggest you make up an Information packet and give it in person to a detective at your local police precinct.
I agree with AnothernoMo. Make extra copies of everything you have received from this creep and give one to your local police. Keep another copy in a safe place elsewhere just in case something happens to your computer. Good luck and stay safe.