How many horrible things in nature can you think of that could be followed by Packer's statement?

Last week we went to a family restaurant. There was a man paying for his meal at the register. He was born with no arms and since he was in a tank top we could see the stubs of fingers poking out what we would normally call an arm pity. My seven year old has not seen many people missing appendages. Just about the time I notice he's gawking, he says in a loud voice, "That's gross! "

The young man did not even respond. He continued to chat with the cute young girl behind the counter. Of course we seized the learning opportunity with our son to explain that was how some people are born. And that calling it gross is rude.

http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/bd/
"Birth defects affect about one in every 33 babies born in the United States each year. They are the leading cause of infant deaths, accounting for more than 20% of all infant deaths."

Why would our Heavenly Father do that to anyone? Remember, he is our Father.

http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/birthdefects/Anencephaly.htm
"Anencephaly occurs when the portion of the neural tube that forms the brain does not close. This results in the baby lacking parts of the brain, skull, and scalp. Babies with this condition often are born without a forebrain (the front part of the brain) and a cerebrum (the thinking and coordinating part of the brain). The remaining brain tissue is often exposed; that is, it is not covered by bone or skin."

Why would our Heavenly Father do that to anyone? Remember, he is our Father.

http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/spinabifida/facts.html
"Spina bifida can happen anywhere along the spine if the neural tube does not close all the way. The backbone that protects the spinal cord does not form and close as it should. This often results in damage to the spinal cord and nerves.

Spina bifida might cause physical and mental disabilities that range from mild to severe."

Why would our Heavenly Father do that to anyone? Remember, he is our Father.

http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/birthdefects/UL-LimbReductionDefects.htm
"Upper and lower limb reduction defects occur when a part of or the entire arm (upper limb) or leg (lower limb) of a fetus fails to form completely during pregnancy. The defect is referred to as a “limb reduction” because a limb is reduced from its normal size or is missing."

Why would our Heavenly Father do that to anyone? Remember, he is our Father.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harlequin-type_ichthyosis
""Harlequin fetus,"[2]:562 and "Ichthyosis congenita gravior"[1]), a skin disease, is the most severe form of congenital ichthyosis, characterized by a thickening of the keratin layer in fetal human skin. In sufferers of the disease, the skin contains massive, diamond-shaped scales, and tends to have a reddish color. In addition, the eyes, ears, penis, and other appendages may be abnormally contracted. The scaly keratin greatly limits the child's movement. Because the skin is cracked where normal skin would fold, it is easily pregnable by bacteria and other contaminants, resulting in serious risk of fatal infection."

Why would our Heavenly Father do that to anyone? Remember, he is our Father.

helemon Wrote:
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> http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/bd/
> "Birth defects affect about one in every 33 babies
> born in the United States each year. They are the
> leading cause of infant deaths, accounting for
> more than 20% of all infant deaths."
>
> Why would our Heavenly Father do that to anyone?
> Remember, he is our Father.

http://www.allaboutlifechallenges.org/miscarriage-statistics.htm
"Miscarriage reportedly occurs in 20 percent of all pregnancies. However, according to some sources, this may be an inaccurate number. Many women, before realizing a life has begun forming within them, may miscarry without knowing it-assuming their miscarriage is merely a heavier period. Therefore, the miscarriage rate may be closer to 40 or 50 percent. Of the number of women who miscarry, 20 percent will suffer recurring miscarriages. "

And the Mormons and Catholics tell us that God hates abortions? Seems to me he likes them WAY TO MUCH!

The original wording from BKP’s talk:

"Some suppose that they were pre- set and cannot overcome what they feel are inborn tendencies toward the impure and unnatural. Not so. Why would our Heavenly Father do that to anyone? Remember, he is our Father.”

The revised wording in the printed version:

“Some suppose that they were preset and cannot overcome what they feel are inborn temptations toward the impure and unnatural. Not so! Remember, God is our Heavenly Father.”

See Jake's comment http://mormonexpression.com/2010/10/episode-87-the-october-7th-2010-lds-protest/#disqus_thread

I am not saying that homosexuality is horrible. I am arguing against BKP assertion that a kind loving God would not make someone gay (which is a 'horrible' condition in his mind), but if we look at all the truly cruel and debilitating genetic defects that humans are afflicted with it is hard to make the argument that HF is some kind loving father. This unfairly places the blame on the individual as being responsible for any perceived 'defect' that the church says they have.

I heard Packer say that a kind, loving HF can and does create persons will all sorts of birth defects and disabilities, but would not create a person with the one most horrible of all disabilities: being gay.

Ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch

Maybe to Packer being an a$shole IS a sign of love. I mean, that seems to be making God into is own image.

Seriously what an incredibly stupid thing to say. How could he be so out of touch with what nature is all about.

"How many horrible things in nature can you think of that could be followed by Packer's statement?"

Packer

(The credit for the above amusing notion (slightly different wording) goes to "John" in a different thread.)