To paraphrase:

--it doesn't matter if the house is a mess or kids are running around in their pajamas

--the most important thing is daily scripture study and FHE

--internet filters for porn work great.

Of note: she sobbed as she related that she and hubby felt overwhelmed as parents of four young children. Well, actually Sister Reeves is mother of THIRTEEN

https://www.lds.org/callings/relief-society/leader-resources/relief-society-presidency-board?lang=eng

She did at one point mention that thirteen of her OLDEST grandchildren were present at GC today. However, I think she purposefully withheld the number of children she has (13 grandkids is not the same as 13 children) since it sounds rather cultish, outside of the Morridor/DesNews sphere of influence. Any mainstream media outlet covering GC would immediately pick up on the fact that one of the speakers is mother of 13.

PtLoma Wrote:
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> To paraphrase:
>
> --it doesn't matter if the house is a mess or kids
> are running around in their pajamas
>
> --the most important thing is daily scripture
> study and FHE
>
> --internet filters for porn work great.
>
> Of note: she sobbed as she related that she and
> hubby felt overwhelmed as parents of four young
> children. Well, actually Sister Reeves is mother
> of THIRTEEN
>
> https://www.lds.org/callings/relief-society/leader
> -resources/relief-society-presidency-board?lang=en
> g
>
> She did at one point mention that thirteen of her
> OLDEST grandchildren were present at GC today.
> However, I think she purposefully withheld the
> number of children she has (13 grandkids is not
> the same as 13 children) since it sounds rather
> cultish, outside of the Morridor/DesNews sphere of
> influence. Any mainstream media outlet covering GC
> would immediately pick up on the fact that one of
> the speakers is mother of 13.

MY GOODNESS.

Four children or thirteen. There is so little difference, really. Let's stop splitting heirs.

HA!

Not bad BJ

"splitting heirs"
They'll be doing a lot of that someday.

+1000

The other obvious question that came to mind: if she was overwhelmed with four kids, what happened by the time she was mother of 13?

Maybe she's crying because when she walked up to the podium, her uterus fell out.

sonoma Wrote:
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> Maybe she's crying because when she walked up to
> the podium, her uterus fell out

My only TBM close relative DID actually have her uterus literally fall out after five boys and a miscarriage. It is sad, other than she does have five very, fine children. She was riding a bicycle and ended up in the hospital. Her health is precarious, even now.

Damn you....I just spewed coffee all over my keyboard.....

COME ON!!!

How does you uterus FALL OUT?

What happened when she had 13 kids was probably lost of psychopharmacological meds.

don't laugh. it actually happens.

Google "prolapsed uterus".

Yep, prolapsed uterus...that's what happened to me after my 5th child and 6th pregnancy. All of my babies were big (8 lbs plus). Last one was 10 lbs. 1 oz. Pretty much destroyed the support for my uterus and took a couple of years to recover. He also broke my tailbone during delivery :( Confirmed that I had made the right decision to have my tubes tied afterwards.

eunice Wrote:
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> Yep, prolapsed uterus...that's what happened to me
> after my 5th child and 6th pregnancy. All of my
> babies were big (8 lbs plus). Last one was 10 lbs.
> 1 oz. Pretty much destroyed the support for my
> uterus and took a couple of years to recover. He
> also broke my tailbone during delivery :(
> Confirmed that I had made the right decision to
> have my tubes tied afterwards.

I am sorry, eunice. I'm wincing for you! :(

Ok, someone above said they left their uterus behind on the bicycle seat.

Is that what a prolapsed uterus is? It literally FALLS OUT?

It's still contained within the vaginal wall but the vaginal wall has lost its structural/muscular support that keeps the uterus higher up...thus the uterus prolapse can protrude out of the vaginal opening. When I noticed it, I was taking a shower at home and kind of freaked out, not knowing what it was!

Yes, and the wonderful nurses kept telling me I was just in so much pain because of him being a big baby. I told them he was the 5th and that they were all big babies. One of his nicknames is P.I.T.A.(Pain In The A**) Lol

Kegel exercises (which can be done with, or without, various made-for-the-purpose exercise devices)...and orgasms (regardless of how the orgasms are initiated) keep uteri in good tone so they do not prolapse.

(Although I think that constantly repeated pregnancy is very probably NOT a good idea for uterus muscle tone. ;) )

Luckily, Kegel exercises helped put things back where they belong. Otherwise surgery would have been needed.

Could you imagine the look on the first row of red velvet chairs if her uterus did plop? I can picture Boyd saying something like, "why would a loving god create such a mess".

I get that these are jokes, but...why exactly when it's a woman like Michelle Duggar or this woman is it suddenly okay to mock women's bodies? Disagree with their politics, but it's not my business what she does with her body, or what reproductive choices she makes. As much as I might disagree with them and she might disagree with mine...it's called feminism. It's about choice.

If we don't want people to talk crudely about obesity, abortion, or say women are sluts when we sleep with multiple partners...why make remarks she'd be humiliated to read about things about her body that aren't our business?

she has the choice to run her body down by popping out kid after kid and we have the choice to laugh at it. I really wouldn't look too much more into it than that.

I wouldn't laugh at a woman who had mental or physical complications from an abortion or a late-in-life pregnancy. Why would I laugh at her and think it's all right? It's absolutely no different.

Because it's life, and life gets messy, it can be laced with experiences that expose us to sh*t and other body discharges. I've experienced the birth of 4 little beasts. You see the beauty through the sh*t. Women, be they feminists or not have dealt with sh*t their entire lives. We just learn to deal with it...sometimes with a sense of humor.

She just gave the formula that worked for her to make it to her high position in the church:

1) Keep so busy in your church callings that you forget how many kids you have.

2) Have so many kids so that the older ones can take of the younger ones while you do your church callings.

3) Stay so busy with church work that you're not able to get everyone dressed, hence, the kids run around in their pajamas.

4) Keep focusing on church work. Don't focus on a clean house. Only the former will earn you the praise of the world so you can get a high church calling.

5) Learn from my mistakes. Because I was so busy with my church work there wasn't time to keep the family sitting still long enough at the appointed hour to read their scriptures.

6) And last, MY SECRET FORMULA: I was so busy 6 1/2 days a week that the only time I had to rest was when my husband and 13 kids held family night while I went to bed early.



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I wonder what the age difference is between the oldest and youngest? I wonder if they actually had 13 in the house all at once (could happen if she popped out one every year)...or whether she had them over a 20 year period (ending before she hit 40) so that the oldest were out of the house when the youngest came into the world.

I wonder if they said good night to each other they same way the Waltons did.

--it doesn't matter if the house is a mess or kids are running around in their pajamas

--the most important thing is daily scripture study and FHE

Great summary. I think the other important thing she mentioned was daily family prayer. I lost my mind for a minute and flipped to the BYU channel and heard this much of her "talk". That was enough for me.

The thing I noticed immediately is the BYU channel is not in HD. Lousy picture to go with a lousy message.

"--it doesn't matter if the... kids are running around in their pajamas..."

But if they were running around in their undies, or... *gasp* buck-ass naked!!! OMG, that would be a scandal! Damn body-hating cult!

"Any mainstream media outlet covering GC would immediately pick up on the fact that one of the speakers is mother of 13."

This may have something to do with why the GA has decided to ban the media from Temple Square during GC weekend.

BTW: Isn't 13 sort of an unlucky number?

Heck, we have a dozen and also 27 grandchildren. Putting on an addition when we have the money to add another 32,000 square feet to our house. Actually, when the first four are young it is the hardest. After that, the older kids pitch in.

This is the same women who said it was so wonderful that God was going to retrofit the burned out Provo Tabernacle and change it from its once beloved community musical center and turn it into another LDS Inc. House of Handshakes with a golden idol blowing its fake horn on the top. That's right the Provo City Center Temple.

I wrote a stern rebuke of that women here:
http://exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,1036213,1036213#msg-1036213

I stand by every word of this rebuke.

Wait. I'm kind of out of the loop here, but are you telling me that Sister Reeves spoke at the main Saturday morning General Conference meeting? Isn't that usually dominated by men?

Men and women are equal in the Lord's One True Church (tm), don'tcha know? ;)

Of course it didn't matter to her if her house was messy and her kids were running around in their sleepwear. She probably had a maid to clean her house, and a nanny to dress her kids. Well, maybe at least by the time her 3 youngest were born.

The Dr probably removed her uterus after the last one.

what I hate is when I go to a BUSINESS meeting in the morridor and a mormon woman stands up to talk about some business thing and starts sniffling like she's in F&T meeting. Happens a lot at one recurring meeting I have to go to.

I am the parent of a child with a developmental disability...tougher job. Having 13 is just irresponsible. JMHO.

Ron Burr

Anyone find it odd she didn't mention about massage parlors in the Morridor?

Great thread. LMFAO...thank you