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Letter to a CES Director went viral on the internet in the spring of 2013. In the fall of 2013, LDS apologetic group FairMormon publicly released an analysis of the CES Letter. In response, Jeremy has now released Debunking FAIR's Debunking. http://www.cesletter.com/debunking-fairmormon/
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/23/2014 10:38AM by mormonthinker.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/23/2014 10:38AM by mormonthinker.
Wow--just Wow--that is an incredible amount of work--Mormon had nothing on Jeremy when it comes to condensing a whole history into one website--someday in a land faraway--someone will use the argument 1) is it possible that a guy from Southern California could have written this entire web page all by himself--of course not! Only the hand of the Google God could do that!
Thank you for all your hard work--hopefully my grandkids will see this!
Thank you for all your hard work--hopefully my grandkids will see this!
Technical question: what platform is this site built on? Looks great!
It renders buggily in [my configuration of] Opera. I'd prefer a plaintext (or, at least, flatter representation) somewhere.
It's always fun to watch FAIR get called out though. :)
It's always fun to watch FAIR get called out though. :)
is Jeremy one of the posters here at RfM ?
I'm out of the loop.
I'm out of the loop.
he comments on here from time to time
From the site's introduction:
"This is a very fascinating, dangerous, precarious, and unstable time for Mormonism. The Church is entering uncharted territory unprecedented in its history. It is experiencing, what Church Historian Elder Marlin K. Jensen described as an “apostasy not seen since Kirtland.” Disaffection and doubts are now penetrating leadership within the Church. A General Authority Emeritus came out with his doubts to the New York Times in July 2013. Stake Presidents and Bishops are struggling with the new facts that are coming out and some are resigning. Many Mormons are discovering facts about Joseph Smith and the Church’s origins and history in the Information Age that the Church was able to conceal from them in the pre-Google Age; and they are leaving."
"This is a very fascinating, dangerous, precarious, and unstable time for Mormonism. The Church is entering uncharted territory unprecedented in its history. It is experiencing, what Church Historian Elder Marlin K. Jensen described as an “apostasy not seen since Kirtland.” Disaffection and doubts are now penetrating leadership within the Church. A General Authority Emeritus came out with his doubts to the New York Times in July 2013. Stake Presidents and Bishops are struggling with the new facts that are coming out and some are resigning. Many Mormons are discovering facts about Joseph Smith and the Church’s origins and history in the Information Age that the Church was able to conceal from them in the pre-Google Age; and they are leaving."
Is it me, or is there an exponential growth in evidence proving that Today's So-Called Church is a house of cards built on lies and falsehoods?
Churchco has built a spectacular PR 'curtain' of goodness and light, but it is being pulled back by brave people who have learned the true history of TSCC and speak out in hope that the abuse will stop.
I'd love to be alive to witness the demise of Mormonism...
Churchco has built a spectacular PR 'curtain' of goodness and light, but it is being pulled back by brave people who have learned the true history of TSCC and speak out in hope that the abuse will stop.
I'd love to be alive to witness the demise of Mormonism...
HOLY SMOKES that's alot of research and scholarship to put FAIR in their place...thanks Jeremy!
Right back at ya FAIR...Jeremy you da MAN!!!
Or so it seems to me...
Right back at ya FAIR...Jeremy you da MAN!!!
Or so it seems to me...
THIS IS THE GREATEST EVAH!!!
seriously.. I am in awe right now.
seriously.. I am in awe right now.
+1
I don't see how the Church or FAIR can counter this. Jeremy, great job at citing sources so that anyone reading this cant say that anything stated in the letter is misquoted, half truth or out of context BS. I verified the original CES Letter sources just to prove to myself that they weren't BS (which they are definitely not). Outstanding work Jeremy!
If anyone believes the BOA is true after reading this is seriously deluded!
I don't see how the Church or FAIR can counter this. Jeremy, great job at citing sources so that anyone reading this cant say that anything stated in the letter is misquoted, half truth or out of context BS. I verified the original CES Letter sources just to prove to myself that they weren't BS (which they are definitely not). Outstanding work Jeremy!
If anyone believes the BOA is true after reading this is seriously deluded!