http://www.ksl.com/index.php?sid=27631200&nid=1012&title=white-house-petition-to-opt-in-for-porn-follows-uks-lead&fm=home_page&s_cid=featured-5



The comments on this are priceless and many are so far removed from reality that they almost seem like intentional satire. However the thing that gets me about the ignorance of our lovely state of Utah is that so many people think that porn just shows up on your computer. How many times does one have to repeat the lie that porn just pops up before some idiot tries to get a law passed censoring porn?

Do you think any of these guys are saying, shit, now I'll have to call and get my porn enabled and then she'll know that it wasn't an accident.

If you decide to read the comments be aware that you will come away dumber for the effort.

From the article, "The average person, even children, can type in the word 'cat' or 'home' or 'soup' and instantly be inundated with offensive and disturbing pornographic images,"

I image-googled "soup" and found only tempting bowls of soup. Not quite sure how that could be offensive or disturbing. Same with "home," just pictures of houses.

And this was the only potentially disturbing image I found upon image-googling "cat": http://fora.mtv.ca/tag/cat-fashion/

WTF?

So many husbands, sons etc. get caught viewing porn, that is just the excuse they use to get out of trouble. "I just googled soup and this website popped up!" So the trusting wives/mothers believe them and go on a head hunt to stop the porn pop ups! (pun intended)

Right. The only computers on which porn would come back as a result searching for cats, cars, or soup are those on which a user has constantly visited porn sites and/or are infected with a virus or malware from said porn sites.

In the early days of the internet, there would indeed be random popups that showed up out of nowhere with porn on them. I remember a few times as a teenager in the early 90's seeing the popups appear, and I would try to close them but then they would multiply. Seriously, before you knew it, there were twelve different web pages on your screen with porn on them. It really stressed me out as a good mormon kid trying to resist the temptation. Looking back, I wonder what kind of questionable websites I was looking at.

But this doesn't happen anymore. Porn doesn't just pop up on your screen the way it used to.

Sucks, doesn't it?


Hahahaha!

My aunt went on a rant a while back of Facebook. She asserted her ISP was causing porn to show up on her search results. She was really mad. I told her to just enable Google safe search, and she all defensively told me she was using a search engine specific to get ISP. /facepalm, /why?, /whatever. So I tracked the search engine down, tested the results she saw, and of course there was no porn. There were, however, ads on the side that appeared to populate based on your previous search history.

She has a teenage son.

I didn't have the heart to explain why she was seeing porn popups.

My mother, whom many hold in high esteem as being a "wonderful woman of the Lord" - has frequently made comments about ads for Viagra, pole-dancing lessons, stripper attire, etc. showing up on her computer. She'll post a comment on FB along the line of "Weird, I just had an ad pop-up for pole-dancing lessons. Like really - who wants to see a 70 year old?" She loves to post these types of things and draw attention to herself, all while acting shocked. Shocked I tell you!

Very interesting.... She lives alone and has no friends over who might be secretly using her computer so I must conclude that she does Internet searches which would indicate some interest along these lines. And then she starts getting ads geared to what she's been known to search. Weird? Not really.

Meanwhile, I never have these types of ads popping up on my computer. However, about ten years ago I once was hijacked when I typed "Amtrack" in a search (rather than Amtrak) and got a pop up saying "You're on the right track for great porn" with a thumbnail picture of a fully naked man. I would have had to click again to see anything more. Instead, I exited fast and have never had this happen again.

A TBMs definition of porn may be different than what the world's definition is which would cause some confusion. There was an elder on my mission, home schooled, came from a family of like 12 kids in a rural farm area. My comp had purchased the SI swimsuit edition and we were all partaking. Elder home school saw it and exclaimed "who bought the playboy!" After laughing a bit we explained the difference between the 2 publications. He said that he'd never seen a woman in a bikini before so that was some hard core porn to him!

Whoa, the SI swimsuit issue then discussing playboy probably got those elders' minds off course for awhile.

Our minds were off course the whole time. We were the mission delinquents who got sent as far from the MP as possible so he didn't have to see what we were doing. We were in a tropical paradise and had the time of our lives! Didn't baptize a single person in that area and remember only teaching like 2 discussions.

I was about to post that an underwear ad from JCPenney might be called porn by a mormon.

In fairness, if you intentionally turn off your porn filter, all your searches will return porn. However, since filter on is the default sitting of your computer, turning it off is basically opting in already.

Had a child/spouse abusing TBM BIL who had a custody hearing, when the subject of how his wife's nose got broken. She caught him watching porn, got upset, and he punched her. He tried to spin the story, and somehow ended up claiming that both the punch and the porn just magically popped up. Funny thing was, the Tennessee court didn't give a crap about the porn until he lied about it, then he got threatened with a contempt of court charge.

I just made sure that my Chrome settings were set to not filter and then went to images.

Soup, no porn

Home, no porn

Cat, no porn

just for fun

Pus sy Cat, a handful of cleverly placed kittens but nothing nude.

"all your searches will return porn."

Really forbiddencokedrinker? I don't see it. I don't have porn filters and can view it any time.

If I search for "model" Google returns some titillating photos but not even a nude photo. If I Google "Spring Break" there are MORE titillating photos. Just no porn.

Porn shows up on computers because people look at it. Human nature. Not the best in us, but not a transgression next to say, MURDER.

Well, maybe my search engine prioritizes according to what it knows I am most likely to click on.

Lol, its true.

Seriously now days you don't even need a special computer. Most modern web browsers have a setting that stops saving cookies, history, etc. Chrome calls it Incognito, Firefox I don't remember. Both have it though. So, websites won't give you pop ups based on your cookies and web history. So ads won't give away your activities.

This reminds me of the time I was helping my grandma with some computer problems. I saw her google history had a search for...let's call them 'well hung asian men'.

I teased her a bit about it and she pretended she had no idea how something like that could have arrived there. Must have been the evil hackers logging onto her computer to lookup pictures of asian men.

Just read this comment and I thought this board would appreciate it.



ANYTHING that reduces porn's influence is fantastic. Porn wrecks lives. Everybody's lives. The children, the spouses, and the addicts. It's globally-studied and proven all over the world. Even the most promiscuous countries fight it because it causes misery.
Porn dealers write predatory programs to hunt people down on their electronics like vermin. If they can just expose a person to a pernicious jolt of hormone, they might hook him or her to enrich themselves. And every exposure increases the pusher's odds of hooking the mark. It's just like someone infecting you with a virus so they can sell you meds, or slipping you a drug (not just offering it) in order to hook you. Luckily, we don't have to "opt out" of meth in our water! Nor should we have to opt out of contamination from greedy people on our phones or tablets. Please sign this petition to protect your little ones and yourselves, before they are exposed repeatedly enough to become another victim.
As a psychotherapist, husband of 32 years, and father of 3, I've seen so many wives and children with broken hearts that started with p***! I don't even want to use the word, because the word itself is a trigger to the addicted. It's so often the cause of family unhappiness that we ask about it right up there with alcohol and drugs. In fact, when a puzzled and grieving wife or girlfriend says her previously caring husband has become 1) easily angered and irritable, 2) critical & unkind, 3) entitled and demanding, 4) mean and cruel to her and the children, and/or 5) hyper-sexual or non-sexual or demanding unusual and degrading sex, we immediately suspect he is hooked. Families report that his anger and hostility are more traumatic and stressful on his wife and children than the heart-breaking cyber-infidelity itself. This can also happen to women of course, but so far we see far more men addicted.
Why does it DO that to a guy? My professional and personal opinion is two-fold. One, is that he becomes used to the unrealistic women online and feels cheated that his own partner is just human, even if she's beautiful. She can't BE a dozen different women online, and she hopefully won't allow her body to be used for increasingly disgusting sex acts to satisfy his need for greater arousal. So his entitlement starts to make him demanding and unkind. He starts using anger and coercion to get her to cooperate, or simply because he feels like it. Two, the emotionally and spiritually destructive nature of this behavior makes men mean, unhappy, unkind, depressed, and even suicidal. It makes good men bad and bad men worse. We men know it's wrong. We deny it, but we know it is, don't we. Those of us who crave this offal scream self-righteously about freedom and censorship and tolerance, but in reality we just want to protect our fix. Few of us have any tolerance for virtue, and hypocritically scream just as loudly AGAINST good and wholesome opinions by calling THEM intolerant (intolerant of what you may ask?) of our own destructive vices. No, I don't use porn, but I came close to becoming hooked decades ago and was very very lucky to escape.
So how does a family regain happiness? How can a man or boy recover and become normal? A few programs specialize in this field, and they have far more info than my summary here, but for now, in my opinion several areas need to be addressed simultaneously, assuming the man is really ready to change: 1. Temporarily, such as a month, (or long-term if needed), eliminate the sex drive using testosterone-reducing medication. Several have worked great for sex offenders around the world. It stops the chemically/hormonally-driven aspect of the addiction while day-to-day routines are changed. One man described it as liberating, by being released from a constant burden.
2. Replace the behavioral aspects of the addiction with other behaviors that are virtue-promoting. How?
A. Brainstorm numerous replacement activities to be done instead of the vice.
B. Find your morality, your honor, your dignity, your integrity, your nobility. Mentally act like the real man that you can be proud of.
C. Assume privacy is a myth.
D. Gain an eternal perspective by talking to someone who's been to the other side—that's right, someone who's been resuscitated after a flat-line experience.
E. As you stay away from the fantasy images and unreal role plays, your natural attraction for your wife will return.
F. If you can find the courage, ask God for help. He's really there. He really helps.
Remember Sir Edmond Burke, who wrote "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men [and women] to do nothing."

As I see it, this commenter must have gotten busted by his wife for surfing for naked hotties. He is still doing penance after all these years. His comment is proof. Hahahaha!

+1

It does sound like the guy is telling a personal story, doesn't it?

Seriously you want men to chemically castrate themselves for viewing porn??? That's insane! Are you trolling?

He's quoting a comment from the original link, not stating his own opinion.

Whew, I jumped into the crazy and missed the first line. Thanks for bailing me out!

I look at porn occasionally, but have never had a porn pop-up. I think the solution is called a pop-up blocker. Who the hell doesn't know this??

Another helpful hint for guys: Have your own private laptop. Don't look at porn on the desktop in the family room, the one with a statue of Jeebus on top....

As i have mentioned in an earlier thread, I have never had porn popups or unwanted images appear on either my own or my children's computers. We just use MS Security Essentials for security, and I set the google filters on the kid's computers.

My husband's laptop is a totally different issue. He looks at porn every now and then, and this is reflected in the ads that appear on any web pages he visits and the odd pop up. The children are not allowed to use his computer for this reason. Even after scrubbing his laptop and insisting that he use "incognito" to visit those sites, the targeted ads on news and other sites are all adult related (just as mine tend to be Mormon related, and my son's relate to children's game sites).

So unwelcome porn ads on computers are targeted ads due to past behavior of users.

I would recommend any porn users in the family have a designated adults only computer if you want to prevent kids coming across unwanted adult content.

The only way he can still be getting targeted porn ads is if he still has cookies on his computer from previous browsing. Sites get way too many hits to try tracking your IP address, so they check with your browser, "Hey, what ads would you like to see?" If a cookie is responding "porn ads pls", that's what you'll get. I suggest looking into how to thoroughly erase temporary files, or maybe even reset your browser.

Also get an ad blocker. I have no idea what ads the internet is trying to send me because I never get to see them.

Yeah, another good rule is no porn on your work computer. I worked for a guy who was a real douche bag. So pompous and full of himself. Was a complete sociopath and lied about a bunch of things. After a year his contract was not renewed (i.e. he was fired) but his wife still worked there. Her company owned laptop was brought in for repair. He forgot to wipe all the gay porn off of it before she brought it in. Since he was such an asshole to everyone, the IT guys had great fun letting everyone at the company know about it. Moral of the story - never download porn to your work computer.

I dunno what websites you guys use but "porn" still does pop up. Try torrenting something, or using one of those stupid music lyrics websites. That being said, trying to ban something on the internet in a top-down fashion is retarded.

So a TBM is checking into a Mariott's with his family and tells the desk clerk "I want all the porn channels in my room to be DISABLED!"

The clerk says "Sorry Sir. All our porn channels are the usual stuff."

One of the ridiculous things about this is that porn is *EVERYWHERE*. Oh, maybe the videos are more constrained to certain sites, but photographs could end up at practically any internet community, and, God, has anyone pushing this type of legislation ever read any of the fiction published on the internet? If you go to any internet community that focuses on creative writing and isn't targeted toward children, a huge minority and sometimes the majority of the work is either outright porn or has frequent graphic sex (God bless those prolific internet writers). Livejournal, Dreamwidth, and Archive of Our Own are just a few of the sites that are not porn sites and may be used for the most innocuous purposes, but also contain some really hot porn. Heck, even Fanfiction.net, which in theory does not even allow explicit works, has porn. It is impossible to just turn off access.

This is interesting. Last week I was surfing on my iPhone going from page to page (reading an article then seeing another article link to another page and so on) when a porn site popped up. No warning. A couple just going at it. Now, I've seen porn before so I just closed the page. Where do I go in Settings to block these popups? It has only happened once. I'm wondering if the "new and improved" (not) IO7 software screwed something up on my phone. Any suggestions? BTW, no one uses my phone but me.



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I work in IT so my inlaws all call me to fix their computers. DW's grandfather is the most "churchy", ultra TBM I've ever met. He was/is a patriarch and the most respected TBM in the community in which he lives. I honestly think he has had his 2nd anointing. Anyways, I get called over to clean up porn viruses a couple times a year. He always says he was just working on a church talk and all of a sudden a porn pop-up came up. It locks his screen with the image/video and cant get rid of it (gets caught by his DW) and pulls the "porn pop-up" excuse lol.

I've also found porn on my FIL's computer is is also ultra TBM - Bishop/Stake Presidency etc... He uses the pop-up excuse as well lol.