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Posted by: Bartok ( )
Date: October 30, 2013 09:57PM

My YW group had this story regaled to us on a mutual night. I'm wondering is any of you have heard it?

I also want to say I don't mean to make light of rape, or any situation like it.

Forgive my terrible prose.

This girl was walking home from a testimony-seminary (do those exist?) meeting that went super long and she ended up walking home at midnight.

As she walked all of her friends drove by to given her a ride home, but she said she wanted to walk. After a while a truck stopped and asked her if she needed a ride, she agreed and got in his car.

Once she got in the doors locked and the lock on her door was cut off so she couldn't escape. The man in the truck looked at her and said " You made it so easy! Now I'm going to rape you!"

He sped off and stopped at a field where he dragged her in and told her to take off her shirt. As she kneeled down to take off her shirt, she decided to pray. She prayed for the man that he might stop.

As she looked up from her prayer the man had tears in his eyes. He said " That was beautiful, I used to be a member of the church, but I got addicted to porn and fell away. Tell you what, you go home."

And that day she learned the power of prayer.




This man was like the triad of Mormon baddies. Ex Mormon, porn addict, which led him to almost raping.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/30/2013 10:32PM by Bartok.

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Posted by: left4good ( )
Date: October 30, 2013 10:18PM

It has all the signs of being an urban legend.

1) Would a girl REALLY hop in a van with a strange man late at night?

2) How was the lock on her door "cut off"?

3) Would a deranged rapist REALLY be moved to tears over a prayer?

4) How did he know she was a member of "the church"? What church?

5) Why is no state, no city, no year given?

It's made up.

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Posted by: Bartok ( )
Date: October 30, 2013 10:29PM

I figured it was, I probably should have stated that. I just wanted to know if anyone else had this made up story shoved down their throat.

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Posted by: crom ( )
Date: October 31, 2013 04:39PM

http://www.snopes.com/glurge/rapestop.asp

If you are raped/murdered it's because your prayers weren't faithful enough.

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Posted by: anagrammy ( )
Date: October 30, 2013 10:38PM

This urban legend has been around since the 14th Century.

It has appeared in various settings and cultures, with various villains, including Satan himself.

Move along, nothing new...


Anagrammy

PS. The prayer preventing a rape circulates... the prayer preventing the suicide (usually from halfway around the world)...the prayer preventing a murder....

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Posted by: Charles, not logged in ( )
Date: October 30, 2013 11:20PM

Fear tactics, simplistic and incredible parables, slamming a group of people in one inane package.

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Posted by: finalfrontier ( )
Date: October 31, 2013 12:08AM

Nope, never heard it. Would probably not have believed it as a TBM, much less so now.

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Posted by: queenb ( )
Date: October 31, 2013 02:17AM

so.... she refuses a ride from all her friends and people she knows, just so she can accept a ride from a strange man?? RIIIGHT. lol

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Posted by: Notloggedin ( )
Date: October 31, 2013 04:00AM

That was my first thought. Too many red flags to be credible. Another big one is that it plays into too many Mormon myths.

Such as:
-Porn makes people leave the church
-Porn makes people feel compelled to rape
-People who leave the church still believe, and just need to feel the spirit to come back

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Posted by: Chump ( )
Date: October 31, 2013 03:14PM

Agreed...and even if moved, why would someone in that situation make that kind of confession instead of just letting her go? Also, as left4good mentioned, how would he even know which church she belonged to?...did she pray in the name of the prophet?...was she praying to heavenly mother?...would she even be praying vocally in the first place?

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Posted by: weeder ( )
Date: October 31, 2013 03:31AM

I'm with anagrammy.

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Posted by: Anon for this too much IRL ( )
Date: October 31, 2013 04:13AM

My friends son kidnapped a 16 year old girl and took her out into the sagebrush to rape her.
He tore off her blouse, then came to his senses and drove her to the police station.

He spent five or seven years in jail. He was a married RM, and about 36 years old at the time.

When he called her from the jail and she had to tell the other kids, that's when one of them told her about the assaults. It was back in the 60s and hers was a large family with a lot of financial troubles at the time.
He and two of his brothers were raped, they were 7,9 and 11 at the time.
It was their priesthood neighbor in northern Utah who took advantage of the situtation because their mother was in the hospital.Dad was useless and would have blamed the little boys for what happened.The children had kept it to themselves until their brother turned himself in.

She was so glad he got the help he needed in prison. He was not molested, and was a great help to the other inmates. He lifted them up and was healed himself.




At least he got help and was able to heal.....
She also got therapy and started down the path of healing and understanding the dysfunctional dynamics her family had been in. She was able to get outside sources and therapy besides the incompetant TSCC.

The OP sounds like a fake story told for the purpose of emphasizing virtue at all costs....

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Posted by: skeptifem ( )
Date: October 31, 2013 04:24AM

stranger rapists usually use disguises, drugs, or threats of violence. Stranger rapists are in the minority- these dudes usually pick people they know. Very few rapists think what they do counts as rape anyway, so straight up being like "i'm going to rape you!" is pretty uncommon. Project unbreakable illustrates this well- these guys always make up a reason that it wasn't rape. This story sounds like bullshit to me.

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Posted by: MarkJ ( )
Date: October 31, 2013 01:34PM

The other problem with this story (or type of story as I suspect that there are many other similar tellings of it) is that it also carries the message that this girl was pure and faithful enough to prevent rape and therefore, any girl who is actually raped, must not have been pure or faithful enough.

This thinking isn't restricted to Mormonism alone, but seems to weave its way through many fundie groups.

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Posted by: caedmon ( )
Date: October 31, 2013 03:18PM

MarkJ Wrote:
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> The other problem with this story (or type of
> story as I suspect that there are many other
> similar tellings of it) is that it also carries
> the message that this girl was pure and faithful
> enough to prevent rape and therefore, any girl who
> is actually raped, must not have been pure or
> faithful enough.
>
> This thinking isn't restricted to Mormonism alone,
> but seems to weave its way through many fundie
> groups.


Just what I was thinking. It plays into the "Blame the victim" mentality.

Also disturbing about this is that this type of magical thinking could lead someone to disregard common sense and place themselves in a dangerous situation because "god will protect" them.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/31/2013 03:21PM by caedmon.

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: October 31, 2013 01:50PM

Back when this was current news I read about it. I was a believer at the time and there was an article in probably The Provo Herald at the time that shook me up. It disturbed me and still does.

"In 1994, attorneys for condemned child-killer James Edward Wood in Pocatello, Idaho, argued that his defense was undermined by a visit from local LDS leaders who talked to him about shedding his own blood. Wood, a Mormon, was sentenced to death after pleading guilty to abducting, murdering and then later sexually molesting and dismembering 11-year-old Jaralee Underwood."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2518414/posts

In the article there were quotes from people who knew Jaralee and all they talked about was what a good girl she was. Then there was someone maybe a police officer or her parents that said that James Wood told them that Jaralee had given him her testimony and talked about stories in The Book of Mormon with him before he killed her. I remember something like she pled with him to not take her because it was a sin and he could repent or something.

I remember thinking wow! God couldn't have "softened his heart"???

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Posted by: notamormon ( )
Date: November 01, 2013 08:38AM

Pagag Wrote:
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> Back when this was current news I read about it. I
> was a believer at the time and there was an
> article in probably The Provo Herald at the time
> that shook me up. It disturbed me and still does.
>
> "In 1994, attorneys for condemned child-killer
> James Edward Wood in Pocatello, Idaho, argued that
> his defense was undermined by a visit from local
> LDS leaders who talked to him about shedding his
> own blood. Wood, a Mormon, was sentenced to death
> after pleading guilty to abducting, murdering and
> then later sexually molesting and dismembering
> 11-year-old Jaralee Underwood."
> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/25184
> 14/posts
>
> In the article there were quotes from people who
> knew Jaralee and all they talked about was what a
> good girl she was. Then there was someone maybe a
> police officer or her parents that said that James
> Wood told them that Jaralee had given him her
> testimony and talked about stories in The Book of
> Mormon with him before he killed her. I remember
> something like she pled with him to not take her
> because it was a sin and he could repent or
> something.
>
> I remember thinking wow! God couldn't have
> "softened his heart"???

Jaralee Underwood was on her newspaper route collecting from customers when she was abducted. Her dismembered body was later
found in the Snake River.

She is the reason that children no longer go door to door collecting subscriptions from their customers. It is all by mail now.

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Posted by: baura ( )
Date: October 31, 2013 02:55PM

A similar FPR tells about a rapist who, at the last moment,
leaves his attacker and runs away. He's caught and asked why he
ran away instead of raping her. He replies it was because of
"all those men." "All those men" turn out to be angels that are
there to protect the faithful, TBM almost-victim.

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Posted by: scarecrowfromoz ( )
Date: October 31, 2013 03:19PM

I heard it as the 3 nephites.

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Posted by: Glo ( )
Date: October 31, 2013 03:06PM

I'm sure such BS stories make victims feel just awful.

The first thought would be why this person got help from unseen powers and they, who were just as devout, did not.

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Posted by: nickname ( )
Date: October 31, 2013 04:13PM

I had a teacher at BYU refer to stories like this as "faith promoting fairy tales." They sound nice (to Mormons) and make them feel all warm and fuzzy inside, but if you try to trace them back, its always a friend of a friend of a cousin of an in-law.... that never leads anywhere.

This one actually could be true, although it is almost certainly not. However, some other "faith promoting fairy tales," such as the one about the Hawaii temple almost being bombed during WWII, are provably false.

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Posted by: grumpyoldfart ( )
Date: October 31, 2013 04:32PM

Faith promoting fairy tales, I think we all heard these from the pulpit at some point, Paul Dunn ring any bells?

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Posted by: themaster ( )
Date: October 31, 2013 04:19PM

I know a girl that this actually did happen to her except for one difference. She was raped. Prayer did not help her. She should have never gotten into the truck with a stranger.

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Posted by: goodfor her ( )
Date: October 31, 2013 11:24PM

Don't believe a word of it.

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Posted by: Aquarius123 ( )
Date: October 31, 2013 11:40PM

I haven't heard that one. What an asinine story.

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Posted by: vectorvirus ( )
Date: November 01, 2013 03:20AM

The rapist sounds like a villain in a cartoon.

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Posted by: elciz ( )
Date: November 01, 2013 10:05AM

Totally made up.

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