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Posted by: anybody ( )
Date: October 11, 2013 10:04AM

Mormonism is heterodox Christianity. Mormons may claim to be Christians but Mormon doctrine and theology deviates so far from the generally accepted tenets of Christianity that it could be described as the fourth Abrahamic religion. All religions are made up but Mormonism was created with the deliberate intent to deceive and defraud.

Here are various opinions for those who care about such things:
http://carm.org/is-mormonism-christian
http://mormonandcatholic.org/51/waltz-mormons-are-heretical-christians
http://www.ewtn.com/library/ANSWERS/mormon2.htm
http://www.bibleprobe.com/mormons.htm

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Posted by: Lurker From Beyond ( )
Date: October 11, 2013 10:05AM

Well...yeah...

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Posted by: kolobian ( )
Date: October 11, 2013 10:08AM

Pepsi is a Soda Pop heresy according to Coca Cola. They taste different, but they're both soda.

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Posted by: anybody ( )
Date: October 11, 2013 11:23AM


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Posted by: saviorself ( )
Date: October 11, 2013 02:11PM


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Posted by: vulcanrider ( )
Date: October 11, 2013 10:13AM

Right Twix is a heresy to Left Twix, but they're both still candy...

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Posted by: Lurker From Beyond ( )
Date: October 11, 2013 10:30AM

Kirk: "You're black on one side and white on the other."

Bele: "I am black on the right side."

Kirk: "I fail to see the significant difference."

Bele: "Lokai is white on the right side. All of his people are white on the right side."

- ST:TOS "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield"

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Posted by: Heartless ( )
Date: October 11, 2013 12:52PM

I once asked a friend of mine who is a Catholic priest which heresy mormonism fell under.

His reply "all of them."

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Posted by: rhgc ( )
Date: October 11, 2013 01:02PM

He is right. Look them up. No heresy is left unused by moism.

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Posted by: jacob ( )
Date: October 11, 2013 01:01PM

Please explain how the generally accepted tenets of Christianity became such. As well as how the tenets of Christianity that are not generally accepted became heretical. Please explain why the issue of Jesus' godhood was still a hot topic 350 years after his death and explain how it was decided that Jesus was in fact god.

Even after Nicaea there were sects that were the same size or greater than the Roman Church. One such sect is the Church of the East, which flourished in India and China. The Church of the East was the largest Christian denomination for a period of 600 years. Only the Ming Dynasty and Islam could stunt the growth. The Christology of the Church of the East was decidedly more Mormon than catholic. Denying things like the Virgin Birth and emphasizing the human nature of Christ.

So when you start talking about generally accepted tenets don't forget that Christianity is as diverse as the world's population and has had 2000 years to evolve and devolve.

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Posted by: rhgc ( )
Date: October 11, 2013 01:05PM

You need many volumes to adequately discuss the heresies and how they were fought over. But, eventually, Christianity became, despite a multitude of sects, united in essential doctrines which moism denies in returning and using the heresies rejected over the centuries like arianism.

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Posted by: jacob ( )
Date: October 11, 2013 01:26PM

I don't think you get my point. Who gets to decide what is or is not a heresy, and why should I care what they think? Especially given the obvious historical contradictions.

The dogma of the Immaculate Conception was not declared until the 1870s with Vatican 1, and wasn't even an idea until the 12th century. How is this any better than Joseph resurrecting the idea that Jesus is a creation of god?

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Posted by: rhgc ( )
Date: October 11, 2013 02:03PM

1, The Immaculate Conception doctrine is unnecessary.
2. The doctrines of JS are directly contrary to the doctrines of mainstream Christianity.

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Posted by: jacob ( )
Date: October 11, 2013 02:05PM

1 NSS

2 Again you are missing my point.

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Posted by: rhgc ( )
Date: October 14, 2013 03:05PM

He who is in the majority gets to decide what is heresy. If in doubt over which is in the majority, fight a war and destroy the other side.

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Posted by: whatiswanted ( )
Date: October 11, 2013 01:29PM

Christianity is to Judism

As

Mormonism is to Christianity

New book.... New prophet...New Teachings


So why aren't the Christians claiming to be Jews?

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Posted by: Eric3 ( )
Date: October 11, 2013 01:44PM

Sort of. Smith got a lot of source material from
Christian churches of his time.

But it's more eclectic. E.g. the Mason rituals, Kolub, invented history. They aren't derived from or in reaction to
any Christian belief or practice.

From fairly early on, Mormon teaching was so far removed
from anything every recognized as Christian, that it
wouldn't be accurate to call it Christian heresy.

Heresy to a faith is rejecting a key doctrine
of that faith while retaining the rest.
It ain't starting fresh.

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Posted by: rhgc ( )
Date: October 11, 2013 02:05PM

It is not just the heresies JS added which are extreme, but his use of old heresies as well. The use of old heresies was NOT starting afresh.

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Posted by: Eric3 ( )
Date: October 14, 2013 02:40PM

Uh the Mason stuff for instance no heresy. It's simply
completely unrelated. It doesn't negate any tenet of
any mainstream faith. It's just bam, there it is! Hey!

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Posted by: kolobian ( )
Date: October 14, 2013 02:44PM

When so-called mainstream christians can publish a document stating what the actual true beliefs of christians are it's impossible to claim any religion is a "christian heresy."

Pull 10 mainstream christians and put them in separate rooms and ask them the same 10 questions about their beliefs and you'll get 10 different answers..

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Posted by: Eric3 ( )
Date: October 14, 2013 02:58PM


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Posted by: kolobian ( )
Date: October 14, 2013 04:22PM

Of course it isn't. That's why there are so few denominations..

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Posted by: jacob ( )
Date: October 14, 2013 04:27PM

Only the really big rockets count, just like with Christian Sects.

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