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Getting at the Root Reasons Why People Leave Mormonism |
Date: |
Aug 23, 2005 02:36 |
Author: |
steve benson |
Introduction: Why People Abandon Belief in
Mormonism--Their Personal Breaking Point |
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Powerful and true. |
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Aug 23 03:54 |
Author: |
Clio |
Thank God I went on a mission. Up to that point the Church
which I had experienced had been a loving, supportive organization dedicated
to the welfare of its people, in particular me. On my mission I saw a manipulative,
brutal machine intent on using people to further itself. |
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Re: Powerful and true. |
Date: |
Aug 23 11:08 |
Author: |
VFW |
Clio wrote: |
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Re: Getting at the Root Reasons Why People Leave Mormonism |
Date: |
Aug 23 09:28 |
Author: |
Just can't |
God does not need to be defended. |
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I didn't believe from the time I was pretty young, read |
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Aug 23 10:49 |
Author: |
Lowtide |
"No Man Knows my History" at age 18, thought it
really pretty much explained it all, but because of all of the good Mormons
around me, decided to go on a mission to make sure. There were times on my
mission where I had the "good fruit" testimony, but all and all,
still didn't believe deep down in my heart of hearts. And then when I found
out about the Book of Abraham fraud, I was done. |
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Thanks Steve.... |
Date: |
Aug 23 11:37 |
Author: |
Craig Paxton |
Two and a half years ago as I was on my own road to
discovery, I read your essay on your meeting with Oaks and Maxwell. At the
time I was still trying to hold together my faith in Mormonism in a bold attempt
to maintain family unity. When I read that essay I was still having doubts
regarding my doubts. I guess in some way your story allow ed me to accept
that I wasn't going mad. That the questions and doubts that I had had since
my days as a missionary where real. It helped me to finally accept the sad
truth that the church was not what it claimed to be. |
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I agree completely |
Date: |
Aug 23 11:45 |
Author: |
Shane |
Viewing first hand how poorly the church treats homosexuals and transgendered individuals is what jarred me out of Mormonism and Christianity. The facts about real church history were always right in front of me, but I would not see them. To use the words of a Mormon, my experiences created a necessary "paradigm shift". The facts did not change, but my understanding did. |
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Great post, It was somewhat opposite for me, though. |
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Aug 23 14:51 |
Author: |
006 |
Well, perhaps not the opposite, exactly. |
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Re: Getting at the Root Reasons Why People Leave Mormonism |
Date: |
Aug 23 14:54 |
Author: |
Jody |
My doubts started in college, which I started attending
after my divorce (my husband got "permission" from our bishop to
divorce me due to him being unhappy). I took Western Civ. and History of
Christianity. I started doubting any religion. Then I started investigating
the claims of the Church. Confirmed my intellectual feelings of it all being
a lie. |
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weighing in |
Date: |
Aug 23 15:15 |
Author: |
george |
Steve. I can certainly follow your thinking regarding the underlying personal impetuous to leave the fold, Unlike you, however, I never was overcome by the shadow of abusive power as you seem to be having had a grandfather who was so clearly gone Hollywood as yours. I still remember the word tabernacle but even more painful was his daughter singing in front of millions at conference. ouch, I can see why you abandoned any Bensionesque hope for life at the Met and took up the pen and cartooning. Good thing for me the annual Wizard of Oz rerun convinced me at an early age to consider the source and to look not only for the man behind the curtain but to look at the man or men behind it as well. For that reason I think I am not alone in finding some degree of accommodation for those folks charged with running the show. |
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School of Hard Knocks vs Academic Knowledge |
Date: |
Aug 23 15:22 |
Author: |
Buddy the Golden Retriever |
My personal experience taught me that all the errs in Mormondom
(scriptural, doctrinal, historical, and cultural)are academic until they
infringe on you personally. At that point you become invalidated as a human
being. To become a human being again you must dissociate from the
institution. |
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somewhat opposite order for me (disillusionment, THEN discovering facts). . . |
Date: |
Aug 23 16:46 |
Author: |
imaworkinonit |
Steve wrote: "In the end, disillusionment with, and ultimate
disbelief in, the Mormon Church frequently boils down to intensely personal
conflicts between fact and myth in which people come to a clear sense that
they have been fundamentally--in their heart of hearts--betrayed by a corrupt
institution that professed to love, trust, respect and accept them as the
individuals that they are--and then acted in ways to totally undermine that
assurance." |
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Re: Getting at the Root Reasons Why People Leave Mormonism |
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Aug 23 18:12 |
Author: |
Anon |
For 35 years I had bad experiences galore in the church and
nothing ever quite seemed to work out but I tried not to let it bother me. |
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The truth... |
Date: |
Aug 23 18:53 |
Author: |
Zim |
For me it came down to truth. I had always been taught we had the one truth. When I found out how much the "truth" had been manipulated, polished and changed, it was the beginning of the end for me. I might still be a member if they had acknowledged the past and owned up to it, but the lies are what changed me. |
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Thanks for the post. |
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Aug 23 20:27 |
Author: |
can't log in here |
It does seem like we're all in one of two camps here on the board. For me the intellectual doubts preceded the personal issues. The personal issues were just the last straw. Like you, I remained active the whole time I was searching. I actually did the whole Alma's challenge thing and lived the religion to the most extreme extent I possibly could. I found that the religion left me empty and unhappy. Sure, it was still based on feelings at first. But I happen to think that any group that requires you to spend every spare dime and second of your life on it should be very emotionally fulfilling, intellectually stimulating and entertaining! |
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I agree with your LAST paragraph n/t |
Date: |
Aug 23 20:42 |
Author: |
Bonnie |
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Subject: |
Steve, your post is very insightful ... |
Date: |
Aug 23 20:55 |
Author: |
JB |
I always love to read what you write and how eloquently you
are able to word things. I agree with your viewpoint and the others who have
posted. |
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