Unconfirmed Reports Re Monson, Alzheimer's and Internal High-Level Manuevering

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  • user warning: Table './exmo_08072012/cache_filter' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: UPDATE cache_filter SET data = '<p>steve benson Jul-Aug 2012</p>\n<p>Word has come to me from an individual and long-time contact (identity protected here) who appears to be giving some degree of credence to rumors that Thomas S. Monson may be suffering from Alzheimer\'s\' disease.</p>\n<p>However, note was also made that these reports are believer-based, that they presently remain unconfirmed and that they therefore cannot be reliably vouched for. These reports on Monson\'s supposed failing brain health are said to have come from a source who is described as having been accurate in past reports and predictions regarding the situation with Daniel C. Peterson. The current information on Monson is allegedly coming via connections to the Mormon Church hierarchy.</p>\n<p>These yet-unconfirmed reports describe Monson has having engaged in embarrassing behavior at public events that has supposedly resulted in him now being continuously managed by Mormon Church-assigned handlers.</p>\n<p>There are further unconfirmed reports that Uchtdorf is wanting to assume the office of Mormon Church presidential responsibilities through the approach supposedly employed by First Presidency counselor Hinckley (in order to take over the running of the Church presidency office of Ezra Taft Benson when the latter had fallen into significant mental and physical decline).</p>\n<p>Another, (also presently unconfirmed) rumor has it that Packer is attempting to have the Quorum of the Twelve move to grant Monson emeritus status, thereby allowing Packer to become LDS Church president.</p>\n<p>GA \"musical chairs\" at play here? When the music stops, they all fall down? We shall see.<br />\n_____</p>\n<p>My opinion (based on how LDS, Inc. handled my grandfather\'s [Ezra Taft Benson] steady decline into pure figure headedness) is that the Mormon Church will manage the affairs of the Corporation from behind the scenes, leaving the so-called \"living prophet\" in place as window-dressing akin to--as one skeptic called it--a dime-store mannequin display, with key decisions being made by First Presidency counselors, associated long-term embedded Church bureaucrats, PR designates and lawyers assigned to work with the front office, aided and abetted by cut-and-paste rehashes of old General Conference talks and perhaps a signature machine thrown in when needed for important legal stuff.</p>\n<p>The membership won\'t have a clue and will follow as they always do; i.e., blindly.</p>\n<hr />\n<p>Mia<br />\nRe: More and Rumors of More: Unconfirmed Reports Re Monson, Alzheimer\'s and Internal High-Level Manuevering . . .<br />\nI would love to see packer be president. I think it would cause a major blowout all through the church.</p>\n<hr />\n<p>BeenThereDunnThatExMo<br />\nA Foreign Born \"Acting\" Prophet </p>\n<hr />\n<p>Blinky<br />\nPlease let it be Packer!<br />\nDecades of Packer\'s inspired counsel would be publicly scrutinized by the world\'s media during this election cycle. ...It\'s possible perfect storm.</p>\n<hr />\nBeenThereDunnThatExMo<br />\nEven Worse Besides Funneling Even More $$$ To His Swiss Bank Accounts...Uchtdorf Will Make \"The Sound Of Music\" Required Viewing 4 Family Home Evenings Once A Month Me Thinks!!!\n<hr />\n<p>cl2<br />\nAnd packer doesn\'t have dementia?</p>\n<hr />\n<p>Don Bagley<br />\nRe: More and Rumors of More: Unconfirmed Reports Re Monson, Alzheimer\'s and Internal High-Level Manuevering . . .<br />\nI could see Uchtdorf leading the church. He\'s already run a company that operates in the sky. Now he can run one that operates with pie-the-sky.</p>\n<hr />\n<p>slatheredtwice<br />\nRe: More and Rumors of More: Unconfirmed Reports Re Monson, Alzheimer\'s and Internal High-Level Manuevering . . .<br />\nSounds like fun!</p>\n<p>Boyd K. messin\' with everyone\'s \"Lil Factory\".</p>\n<hr />\nOnmywayout . . . someday<br />\nRe: More and Rumors of More: Unconfirmed Reports Re Monson, Alzheimer\'s and Internal High-Level Manuevering . . .<br />\nI have a hard time believing the Packer part of the rumor. First of all, he doesn\'t seem to have all his marbles anymore himself. Also, he has always been so uber-traditional and orthodox that I just don\'t believe that he would advocate breaking a tradition that goes all the way back to Brigham Young.\n<hr />\n<p>Twinker<br />\nI\'d like to see Packer as Pres. Profit. Perhaps he won\'t be<br />\nas easily stage managed as Monson. You know, being a grizzly bear and all.</p>\n<hr />\njust a thought<br />\nRe: More and Rumors of More: Unconfirmed Reports Re Monson, Alzheimer\'s and Internal High-Level Manuevering . . .<br />\nIf true, coffee consumption might have prevented this. The irony of this would be thick to endure.\n<p><a href=\"http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/06/110621093301.htm\" title=\"http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/06/110621093301.htm\">http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/06/110621093301.htm</a></p>\n<hr />\nPapaKen<br />\nThe guy they REALLY need is<br />\nROMNEY.\n<p>He\'s proved he knows how to run a corporation while stepping on the little guys.</p>\n<hr />\nambivalent exmo<br />\nHoly crap! I think you might be onto something PapaKen!<br />\nMittens as profit?<br />\nTalk about an end of days scenario..<br />\nIt\'s actually quite an horrific thought...\n<hr />\nlilygeorge<br />\nRe: More and Rumors of More: Unconfirmed Reports Re Monson, Alzheimer\'s and Internal High-Level Manuevering . . .<br />\nI kinda suspect several of the others started to lose it a bit before they journeyed on to the CK. Is it maybe harder to hide it with the all-intrusive media now? I wonder what \"embarrassing\" stuff he did. I know some old people with all their faculties but then they will pass gas shamelessly.\n<p>So just trying to figure out what the poor old devil is doing - maybe grabbing the butts of a Relief Society president or two as they pass him in the aisle? Seeing the statue of Jesus and calling it by the name of the puppy he had when he was five years old?</p>\n<hr />\nrhgc<br />\nRe: Holy crap! I think you might be onto something PapaKen!<br />\nIt would be better than the others and better for the USA to have Romney head of TSCC.\n<hr />\nwarren<br />\nWhat if a mentally confused prophet told everyone to join another church<br />\nOr told them unusal things that would lose church members like something warren jeffs would do.\n<hr />\n3X<br />\nRe: More and Rumors of More: Unconfirmed Reports Re Monson, Alzheimer\'s and Internal High-Level Manuevering . . .<br />\nAh - the Bagley wit is on overdrive tonight :)\n<hr />\n<p>robertb<br />\nRe: More and Rumors of More: Unconfirmed Reports Re Monson, Alzheimer\'s and Internal High-Level Manuevering . . .<br />\nIt would be more humane to give him and other incapacitated men emeritus status. Can you imagine the politics, though? Who would set the criteria and who would decide when they apply?</p>\n<hr />\n<p>Lethbridge Reprobate<br />\nRe: Even Worse Besides Funneling Even More $$$ To His Swiss Bank Accounts...Uchtdorf Will Make \"The Sound Of Music\" Required Viewing 4 Family Home Evenings Once A Month Me Thinks!!!<br />\nToooo funny....and disturbing all at once....I can hear it now from some old TBM....\"I ain\'t gonna let some \"furiner\" run MY church!\".....</p>\n<hr />\nflyboy21<br />\nRe: More and Rumors of More: Unconfirmed Reports Re Monson, Alzheimer\'s and Internal High-Level Manuevering . . .<br />\nI could see him pulling a Brigham Young on Uchtdorf, though. The man is a power-hungry megalomaniac, and I think he\'d do ANYTHING to get to the Holy of Holies in the SLC temple.\n<hr />\n<p>DNA<br />\nRe: More and Rumors of More: Unconfirmed Reports Re Monson, Alzheimer\'s and Internal High-Level Manuevering . . .<br />\nI remember talking to BKP\'s son in the mid 90\'s about his father becoming the big man. His son couldn\'t picture it, he was too far down the line of who goes next. Sounds like he might make it after all.</p>\n<hr />\n<p>anagrammy<br />\nRe: More and Rumors of More: Unconfirmed Reports Re Monson, Alzheimer\'s and Internal High-Level Manuevering . . .<br />\nAdmin for this board has discussed publishing confirmed sources on this and has chosen not to allow family information to be posted here, presumably out of respect for their privacy.</p>\n<p>There is no way they can allow Monson to stay in place. Alzheimers is not like simple senility--there are rages and from what I have heard, this has already happened and Monson has been sidelined while a Vatican-like political struggle is taking place within the COB.</p>\n<p>Anagrammy</p>\n<hr />\n<p>darth jesus<br />\nRe: More and Rumors of More: Unconfirmed Reports Re Monson, Alzheimer\'s and Internal High-Level Manuevering . . .<br />\ni vote for packer.</p>\n<p>packer for president and prime minister!</p>\n<p>i can\'t wait for him to start bashing other people beliefs, sexual tendencies, political views, other religions, fire everybody at FARMS, FAIR, whatever other names they have.</p>\n<p>he\'ll act like a dancing drunk at a party.</p>\n<p>exciting times.</p>\n<hr />\nforbiddencokedrinker<br />\nRe: More and Rumors of More: Unconfirmed Reports Re Monson, Alzheimer\'s and Internal High-Level Manuevering . . .<br />\nPardon me Steve, but if you have multiple unconfirmed reports, then aren\'t the reports confirming each other?\n<hr />\n<p>\"Recovery from Mormonism - www.exmormon.org\"</p>\n', created = 1490632532, expire = 1490718932, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '2:f3dba0d1bf01f3898b9b1ef86b41e37e' in /home/exmormon/public_html/d6/drupal/includes/cache.inc on line 112.

steve benson Jul-Aug 2012

Word has come to me from an individual and long-time contact (identity protected here) who appears to be giving some degree of credence to rumors that Thomas S. Monson may be suffering from Alzheimer's' disease.

However, note was also made that these reports are believer-based, that they presently remain unconfirmed and that they therefore cannot be reliably vouched for. These reports on Monson's supposed failing brain health are said to have come from a source who is described as having been accurate in past reports and predictions regarding the situation with Daniel C. Peterson. The current information on Monson is allegedly coming via connections to the Mormon Church hierarchy.

These yet-unconfirmed reports describe Monson has having engaged in embarrassing behavior at public events that has supposedly resulted in him now being continuously managed by Mormon Church-assigned handlers.

There are further unconfirmed reports that Uchtdorf is wanting to assume the office of Mormon Church presidential responsibilities through the approach supposedly employed by First Presidency counselor Hinckley (in order to take over the running of the Church presidency office of Ezra Taft Benson when the latter had fallen into significant mental and physical decline).

Another, (also presently unconfirmed) rumor has it that Packer is attempting to have the Quorum of the Twelve move to grant Monson emeritus status, thereby allowing Packer to become LDS Church president.

GA "musical chairs" at play here? When the music stops, they all fall down? We shall see.
_____

My opinion (based on how LDS, Inc. handled my grandfather's [Ezra Taft Benson] steady decline into pure figure headedness) is that the Mormon Church will manage the affairs of the Corporation from behind the scenes, leaving the so-called "living prophet" in place as window-dressing akin to--as one skeptic called it--a dime-store mannequin display, with key decisions being made by First Presidency counselors, associated long-term embedded Church bureaucrats, PR designates and lawyers assigned to work with the front office, aided and abetted by cut-and-paste rehashes of old General Conference talks and perhaps a signature machine thrown in when needed for important legal stuff.

The membership won't have a clue and will follow as they always do; i.e., blindly.


Mia
Re: More and Rumors of More: Unconfirmed Reports Re Monson, Alzheimer's and Internal High-Level Manuevering . . .
I would love to see packer be president. I think it would cause a major blowout all through the church.


BeenThereDunnThatExMo
A Foreign Born "Acting" Prophet


Blinky
Please let it be Packer!
Decades of Packer's inspired counsel would be publicly scrutinized by the world's media during this election cycle. ...It's possible perfect storm.


BeenThereDunnThatExMo
Even Worse Besides Funneling Even More $$$ To His Swiss Bank Accounts...Uchtdorf Will Make "The Sound Of Music" Required Viewing 4 Family Home Evenings Once A Month Me Thinks!!!

cl2
And packer doesn't have dementia?


Don Bagley
Re: More and Rumors of More: Unconfirmed Reports Re Monson, Alzheimer's and Internal High-Level Manuevering . . .
I could see Uchtdorf leading the church. He's already run a company that operates in the sky. Now he can run one that operates with pie-the-sky.


slatheredtwice
Re: More and Rumors of More: Unconfirmed Reports Re Monson, Alzheimer's and Internal High-Level Manuevering . . .
Sounds like fun!

Boyd K. messin' with everyone's "Lil Factory".


Onmywayout . . . someday
Re: More and Rumors of More: Unconfirmed Reports Re Monson, Alzheimer's and Internal High-Level Manuevering . . .
I have a hard time believing the Packer part of the rumor. First of all, he doesn't seem to have all his marbles anymore himself. Also, he has always been so uber-traditional and orthodox that I just don't believe that he would advocate breaking a tradition that goes all the way back to Brigham Young.

Twinker
I'd like to see Packer as Pres. Profit. Perhaps he won't be
as easily stage managed as Monson. You know, being a grizzly bear and all.


just a thought
Re: More and Rumors of More: Unconfirmed Reports Re Monson, Alzheimer's and Internal High-Level Manuevering . . .
If true, coffee consumption might have prevented this. The irony of this would be thick to endure.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/06/110621093301.htm


PapaKen
The guy they REALLY need is
ROMNEY.

He's proved he knows how to run a corporation while stepping on the little guys.


ambivalent exmo
Holy crap! I think you might be onto something PapaKen!
Mittens as profit?
Talk about an end of days scenario..
It's actually quite an horrific thought...
lilygeorge
Re: More and Rumors of More: Unconfirmed Reports Re Monson, Alzheimer's and Internal High-Level Manuevering . . .
I kinda suspect several of the others started to lose it a bit before they journeyed on to the CK. Is it maybe harder to hide it with the all-intrusive media now? I wonder what "embarrassing" stuff he did. I know some old people with all their faculties but then they will pass gas shamelessly.

So just trying to figure out what the poor old devil is doing - maybe grabbing the butts of a Relief Society president or two as they pass him in the aisle? Seeing the statue of Jesus and calling it by the name of the puppy he had when he was five years old?


rhgc
Re: Holy crap! I think you might be onto something PapaKen!
It would be better than the others and better for the USA to have Romney head of TSCC.
warren
What if a mentally confused prophet told everyone to join another church
Or told them unusal things that would lose church members like something warren jeffs would do.
3X
Re: More and Rumors of More: Unconfirmed Reports Re Monson, Alzheimer's and Internal High-Level Manuevering . . .
Ah - the Bagley wit is on overdrive tonight :)

robertb
Re: More and Rumors of More: Unconfirmed Reports Re Monson, Alzheimer's and Internal High-Level Manuevering . . .
It would be more humane to give him and other incapacitated men emeritus status. Can you imagine the politics, though? Who would set the criteria and who would decide when they apply?


Lethbridge Reprobate
Re: Even Worse Besides Funneling Even More $$$ To His Swiss Bank Accounts...Uchtdorf Will Make "The Sound Of Music" Required Viewing 4 Family Home Evenings Once A Month Me Thinks!!!
Toooo funny....and disturbing all at once....I can hear it now from some old TBM...."I ain't gonna let some "furiner" run MY church!".....


flyboy21
Re: More and Rumors of More: Unconfirmed Reports Re Monson, Alzheimer's and Internal High-Level Manuevering . . .
I could see him pulling a Brigham Young on Uchtdorf, though. The man is a power-hungry megalomaniac, and I think he'd do ANYTHING to get to the Holy of Holies in the SLC temple.

DNA
Re: More and Rumors of More: Unconfirmed Reports Re Monson, Alzheimer's and Internal High-Level Manuevering . . .
I remember talking to BKP's son in the mid 90's about his father becoming the big man. His son couldn't picture it, he was too far down the line of who goes next. Sounds like he might make it after all.


anagrammy
Re: More and Rumors of More: Unconfirmed Reports Re Monson, Alzheimer's and Internal High-Level Manuevering . . .
Admin for this board has discussed publishing confirmed sources on this and has chosen not to allow family information to be posted here, presumably out of respect for their privacy.

There is no way they can allow Monson to stay in place. Alzheimers is not like simple senility--there are rages and from what I have heard, this has already happened and Monson has been sidelined while a Vatican-like political struggle is taking place within the COB.

Anagrammy


darth jesus
Re: More and Rumors of More: Unconfirmed Reports Re Monson, Alzheimer's and Internal High-Level Manuevering . . .
i vote for packer.

packer for president and prime minister!

i can't wait for him to start bashing other people beliefs, sexual tendencies, political views, other religions, fire everybody at FARMS, FAIR, whatever other names they have.

he'll act like a dancing drunk at a party.

exciting times.


forbiddencokedrinker
Re: More and Rumors of More: Unconfirmed Reports Re Monson, Alzheimer's and Internal High-Level Manuevering . . .
Pardon me Steve, but if you have multiple unconfirmed reports, then aren't the reports confirming each other?

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