Mormons Believe the Berlin Wall Fell due to the LDS Church and Thomas Monson
by steve benson
Exhibit A in this regard: Monson's diabolical dance with East Germany's devil and Soviet-backed henchman, Erich Honecker.
Thomas Monson dancing with dictators.
Monson showed the world that he can play footsies with Commie thugs better than prize-winning partners on the BYU Ballroom Dance Team can glide their way into your hearts.
Why care if your waltz buddy is a murdering Communist dictator, as long as you're making money for Mormon entrepreneurs and providing handshaking photo ops with LDS Cult leaders anxious to set up a prophetless, profit-making shop in your country?
Exhibit A in this regard: Monson's diabolical dance with East Germany's devil and Soviet-backed henchman, Erich Honecker.
For those who may not be familiar with the professional "accomplishments" of Comrade Honecker, below is a brief synopsis:
"In 1961 Honecker was in charge of the building of the Berlin Wall. In 1971, he initiated a political power struggle that led, with Soviet support, to himself becoming the [German Democratic Republic's] new leader . . . During the 1980s, when Mikhail Gorbachev began his reforms, he remained a hard-line Communist. But popular protest led to his resignation on October 18, 1989, and he was replaced by [a] short-lived successor . . . .
"From 1989 until 1993, Honecker avoided prosecution over Cold War crimes, specifically the 192 deaths of those trying to escape over the Berlin Wall."
("Erich Honecker--Definition," at: http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Erich_Honecker)
". . . [Following his fall] from power . . . after 18 years, Honecker was extradited to Germany from Moscow, where he fled to escape manslaughter charges linked to deaths of defectors at the Berlin Wall. But the trial collapsed in 1993 due to Honecker's terminal illness."
("FACTBOX--Strongmen Brought Low in History," Reuters, 30 December 2006, at: http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L30855826.htm)
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Oh, but brothers and sisters in the glorious restored Gospel of Jesus Cash Christ, let's not get hung up in the brutal, bloody details.
Let's put an end to all the negativity and send in the First Presidency to warmly cement a deal with the Communists--against the backdrop of the cold cement of the Berlin Wall.
Monson, representing LDS, Inc., eagerly flew to East Germany to schmooze the Russian-backed tyrant and shake Honecker's hand, stained though it was with the blood of innocents.
Apparently it's acceptable in the minds of money-grubbing Mormons if Monson flirts with a cold-blooded killer and tyrant like Honecker, as long as it helps push product line.
Enter ever-ready Mormon manufacturers of pretty figurines and other sacred knickknacks eager to note on their commercial website that Mormon Mafioso Monson gave Communist Criminal Honecker one of their own celestially-crafted creations.
The company "Hansen Classics," which produces the porcelain family figurines so prevalent in LDS hearth and home, made this sales pitch, heralding an October 1988 photograph showing Monson and Honecker in notorious kiss-up mode (which is no longer found on its original website, hmmmmm . . .):
"President Thomas S. Monson, second [counselor in the] Presidency of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints shakes hands with East German state and party leader Erich Honecker. President Monson presented Honecker Friday with a gift sculpture, 'In The Family Circle,' and praised the East German government for its CORPORATION [yes, that's an actual typo, emphasis added] with Church members."
(for the now-sanitized site, now for some reason not showcasing the Monson-Honecker meet-and-greet photo and its accompanying description, see: "Hansen Classics: Fine Porcelain Figurines," at: http://www.hansenclassics.com/news.html)
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Monson later attempted to justify his consciousless courting of Communist East German butchers in the name of getting a cash-producing Mormon temple up and running behind the Iron Curtain (along with Mormon missionaries peddling the streets of East Berlin looking for new tithe-paying members to rope in).
In a sickening sermon entitled, "Thanks Be to God," Monson waxed rhaposodic in rationalization for playing footsie with the totalitarian thug Honecker, rejoicing in retelling how he presented this notorious mass murdererer with Mormon porcelain dolls, while simultaneously assuring Honecker that good Mormon East Germans would loyally and meekly follow the commands of their godless Communist leaders.
Recalling his glad-handing of Honecker, Monson said:
" . . . [I]t was back to Berlin for the crucial meetings with the head of the nation, even Chairman Erich Honecker.
"That special morning the sunlight bathed the city of Berlin. It had been raining all night, but now beauty prevailed. We were driven to the chambers of the chief representatives of the government.
"Beyond the exquisite entry to the building, we were greeted by Chairman Honecker. We presented to him the statuette 'First Step,' depicting a mother helping her child take its first step toward its father. He was highly pleased with the gift. He then escorted us into his private council room. There, around a large round table, we were seated. Others at the table included Chairman Honecker and his deputies of government.
"Chairman Honecker began, 'We know members of your Church believe in work; you’ve proven that. We know you believe in the family; you’ve demonstrated that. We know you are good citizens in whatever country you claim as home; we have observed that. The floor is yours. Make your desires known.'
"I began, 'Chairman Honecker, at the dedication and open house for the temple in Freiberg, 89,890 of your countrymen stood in line, at times up to four hours, frequently in the rain, that they might see a house of God.
"In the city of Leipzig, at the dedication of the stake center, 12,000 people attended the open house.
"In the city of Dresden there were 29,000 visitors; in the city of Zwickau, 5,300. And every week of the year 1,500 to 1,800 people visit the temple grounds in the city of Freiberg. They want to know what we believe. We would like to tell them that we believe in honoring and obeying and sustaining the law of the land.
"We would like to explain our desire to achieve strong family units. These are but two of our beliefs. We cannot answer questions, and we cannot convey our feelings, because we have no missionary representatives here as we do in other countries. The young men and young women whom we would like to have come to your country as missionary representatives would love your nation and your people.
"More particularly, they would leave an influence with your people which would be ennobling. Then we would like to see young men and young women from your nation who are members of our Church serve as missionary representatives in many nations, such as in America, in Canada, and in a host of others. They will return better prepared to assume positions of responsibility in your land.”
"Chairman Honecker then spoke for perhaps thirty minutes, describing his objectives and viewpoints and detailing the progress made by his nation. At length, he smiled and addressed me and the group, saying, 'We know you. We trust you. We have had experience with you. Your missionary request is approved.'
"My spirit literally soared out of the room. The meeting was concluded. As we left the beautiful government chambers, Elder Russell Nelson turned to me and said, 'Notice how the sunshine is penetrating this hall. It’s almost as though our Heavenly Father is saying, ‘I am pleased.’
"The black darkness of night had ended. The bright light of day had dawned. The gospel of Jesus Christ would now be carried to the millions of people in that nation. Their questions concerning the Church will be answered, and the Kingdom of God will go forth.
"As I reflect on these events, my thoughts turn to the Master’s words, 'In nothing doth man offend God, or against none is his wrath kindled, save those who confess not his hand in all things.' (D&C 59:21.) I confess the hand of God in the miraculous events pertaining to the Church in the German Democratic Republic."
(Thomas S. Monson, "Thanks Be to God," in "Ensign." May 1988, pp. 50ff, at: http://lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&locale=0&sourceId=561127cd3f...)
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How tender, how touching, how tortured.
Honecker's death occurred on 29 May 1994-- ironically enough, mere hours apart from that of Mormonism's notoriously anti-Communist president Ezra Taft Benson (I have a piece of the Berlin Wall in my home office, with an accompanyng note from my mother indicating the proximity of the two men's deaths). Honecker's demise is mentioned on a Mormon-promoting website with a reminder of Honecker's actual contributions to inhumanity--acts which Monson conveniently failed to mention in his sermon singing the praises of the Communist leader:
"Erich Honecker, former head of the German Democratic Republic, passed away today at the home of his daughter in the land of Chile. Erich Honecker was the principal architect of the Berlin Wall, which was built to stem the outflow of freedom-loving people and skilled artisans from East Germany, their desire being to reside in the western portion of Germany where a democratic government led the people.
"Ruthless tactics were devised to prevent anyone from crossing the Wall--these tactics including death without trial administered by the guards who carefully patrolled and monitored the area leading up to the Wall from the East German side."
(Thomas S. Monson, "Faith Rewarded: A Personal Account of Prophetic Promises to the East German Saints," under the subhead, "With Thee All Things Are Possible": AN APOSTLE'S PROMISES ARE ALL FULFILLED 1991-95," at: http://ldsbooks.narod.ru/books/Faith-Rewarded-A-Personal-Account-of-Prop...)
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At the funeral of Honecker's nemesis, Ezra Taft Benson, even Gordon B. Hinckley had to admit just how brutal of despot Honecker was; yet, apparently Honecker was not brutal enough for the Mormon Church to defy his tyrannical reign or to call upon East German Latter-day Saints to rise up against the ungodly oppression of the Communist state. Confessed Hinckley:
“I cannot imagine two men [Honecker and Benson] so different in the causes they espoused, in what they did for mankind, and in the philosophies by which they guided their lives.
“Erich Honecker was the iron-fisted Communist ruler of East Germany, the feared and despised builder of the Berlin Wall, the practitioner of the godless dogma of oppression and slavery to the state. He died a refugee from his native land. He was able to leave his country and thus escape prosecution and possible execution because of the serious condition of his health.
“On the other hand, Ezra Taft Benson was the fearless and outspoken enemy of Communism, a man who with eloquence and conviction preached the cause of human freedom, one who loved and worshipped the Prince of Peace, the Redeemer of mankind. He died in the love of people across the world, a man respected and reverenced, a man for whose well-being millions constantly prayed.”
(Gordon B. Hinckley, "Farewell to a Prophet," in "Ensign," July 1994, pp. 37-40, at: http://exmormon.org/phorum/posting.php)
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How moving--how hypocritically so.
Just how moved was Monson to speak up against the evils of totalitarian rule in East Germany?
Funny that Monson didn't mention that inconvenient side of life in East Germany to Honecker--or, for that matter, to Mormons whom Monson admonished to faithfully follow their murderous sleader so that one day, too, they could return from LDS missions better prepared to obediently serve their German state masters.
Heavens, no.
Instead, Monson wanted to reassure Honecker that good German Mormons would do all in their power to obey the laws of his Communist land.
So, Comrade Erich, here's a fine porcelain figurine, courtesy of the Mormon Church--along with a solemn promise from our ever-devout, lock-step German members to do exactly as they're told.
Ich bin ein Honecker follower.
Oh, and while we're at it, can we build a temple in your godless country, convert your citizens to our Christless cult and siphon off their hard-earned money?
So sickening was Monson’s dancing-with-dictators routine that even some faithful Mormons had a difficult time stomaching it.
As LDS writer Eugene England reluctantly observed in an essay entitled, "Give Yourself a Christmas Present:"
"President Monson seems more forgiving of the Communists than I'm afraid I could be. It is a little difficult, as he describes the delicate, necessarily secret negotiations that began as early as 1978 and eventually led to the first temple in a Communist nation, to reflect that such delicate diplomacy was perhaps the reason Tom Rogers was asked not to continue to produce for awhile his excellent play about the young German Mormon from Hamburg, Helmut Huebener, who in 1942 rebelled against a tyrannous dictatorship--Hitler's--and was executed.
"And it is a little difficult to read President Monson's account of his genial meeting, along with other Church leaders, in October 1988 with Erich Honecker, the dictator, under Russian direction, of the GDR . . . not far behind Hitler and Stalin in betrayal and even murder of his own people (who only two years after that meeting overthrew him and put him in jail).
"President Monson reports that Honecker praised the Mormons because 'we taught our members to obey and sustain the law of the land and to be good citizens, that we emphasize the family, and that our Church members were ideal citizens of that land.' . . . I'm not entirely certain I could want to be an ideal citizen of Mr. Honecker's utopian dictatorship."
In the end, however, even England--like so many "good" Mormons--went along with Monson in justifying giving in to the Dark Side for Joseph Smith's sake:
"But the fact remains that President Monson's persistent, forgiving geniality and his faithful, repeated prayer to God, 'Wilt Thou intervene in the governmental affairs,' succeeded where our own government's animosity and threats had not, and the faith of the German Saints was indeed rewarded--not just with the full blessings of the Gospel but, by 1990, with freedom from tyranny and uniting of the separate parts of the Church in Germany along with reunification under a non-Communist government.
"That was a miracle that many of us in the Church prayed for for many years because the Brethren asked us to, though I confess I did so without much faith. But it did indeed happen, and the prayers and faith of a prophet and the German people were, I believe, important factors."
Excuse me while I relieve myself of my lunch.
Follow the prophet, follow the Party, follow the money.
All is well, all is well.
In the end, dictators of a feather flock together.
The Mormon Cult meets Godless Communism--and a meeting of the minds ensues.
Edited 6 time(s). Last edit at 11/19/2010 09:03PM by steve benson.
Jenny
Steve, my ex and I were active TBMs living in Munich when The Wall went down. Never heard a peep about any of this.
Plus, we were good friends with the Swiss man who was (one of the) lawyer(s) who negotiated the printing of a hymnal in East Germany. My vague memories from nearly 20 years ago are telling me that this printing was somehow connected to the building of the DDR Temple, but that might be a misconnect on my part. So even Brother Lawyer from Switzerland NEVER said it was because of LDS work that the wall fell. Nobody in our ward or stake said so.
Bro. Lawyer did say that in order to make any advances at all on the temple and the hymnal and getting LDS worship to be accepted in DDR they did have to comply with many laws of the land and hoops were jumped through. But he felt that that was worth for people there to be able to worship in the way they wanted.
That's all I know. Thanks for your exhaustive posts. Always something to learn.
Jenny
steve benson
Reminds one of Mormon complicity with the Nazis during WWII . . .
The case of Helmuth Hubener comes immediately to mind:
"Helmuth Hübener (8 January 1925 – 27 October 1942) was the youngest opponent of the Third Reich to be sentenced to death by the Volksgerichtshof and executed. . . .
Hübener came from an apolitical family in Hamburg, Germany. He belonged to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS), as did his mother and grandparents. His adoptive father, Hugo, gave him the name Hübener.
"The youthful Helmuth had, since a small child, been a member of the Boy Scouts, an organization strongly supported by his church, but in 1935 the Nazis banned scouting from Germany. He then joined the Hitler Youth, as required by the government, but would later disapprove of Kristallnacht, when the Nazis, including the Hitler Youth, destroyed Jewish businesses and homes.
"When one of the leaders in his local congregation, a new convert of under two years, undertook to bar Jews from attending its religious services, Hübener found himself at odds with the new policy, but continued to attend services with like-minded friends as the Latter-day Saints locally debated the issue. (His friend and fellow resistance fighter Rudolf Wobbe would later report that of the two thousand Latter-day Saints in the Hamburg area, seven were pro-Nazi, but five of them happened to be in his and Helmuth's St. Georg Branch (congregation); thus stirring controversy with the majority who were non- or anti-Nazis.)
"After Hübener finished middle school in 1941, he began an apprenticeship in administration at the Hamburg Social Authority (Sozialbehörde). He met other apprentices there, one of whom, Gerhard Düwer, he would later recruit into his resistance movement. At a bathhouse, he met new friends, one of whom had a communist family background and, as a result, he began listening to enemy radio broadcasts; these were strictly forbidden in Nazi Germany, being considered a form of treason.
"In the summer of that same year, Hübener discovered his brother Gerhard's shortwave radio in a hallway closet and began listening to the BBC on his own and used what he heard to compose various anti-fascist texts and anti-war leaflets, of which he also made many copies. The leaflets were designed to bring to people's attention how skewed the official reports about World War II from Berlin were, as well as to point out Adolf Hitler's, Joseph Goebbels's, and other leading Nazis' criminal behaviour. Other themes covered by Hübener's writings were the war's futility and Germany's looming defeat. He also mentioned the mistreatment sometimes meted out in the Hitler Youth.
"In the autumn of 1941, he managed to involve three friends in his listening: Karl-Heinz Schnibbe and Rudi Wobbe, who were fellow Latter-day Saints, and later Gerhard Düwer. Hübener had them help him distribute about 60 different pamphlets, all containing typewritten material from the British broadcasts. They distributed them throughout Hamburg, using such methods as surreptitiously pinning them on bulletin boards, inserting them into letterboxes, and stuffing them in coat pockets.[1]
[edit]Arrest and execution
"On 5 February 1942, Helmuth Hübener was arrested by the Gestapo at his workplace in the Hamburger Bieberhaus. While trying to translate the pamphlets into French and trying to have them distributed among prisoners of war, he had been noticed by Nazi Party member Heinrich Mohn, who had denounced him.
"On 11 August 1942, Hübener's case was tried at the Volksgerichtshof in Berlin, and on 27 October, at the age of 17, he was beheaded by guillotine at Plötzensee Prison in Berlin.[1] His two friends, Schnibbe and Wobbe, who had also been arrested, were given prison sentences of five and ten years respectively.
"Volksgerichtshof's proclamation from 27 October 1942 announcing Hübener's execution
"As stated in the proclamation . . . , Hübener was found guilty of conspiracy to commit high treason and treasonous furthering of the enemy's cause. He was sentenced not only to death, but also to permanent loss of his civil rights, which means he could be (and was) mistreated in prison, with no bedding or blankets in his cold cell, for instance.
"It was highly unusual for the Nazis to try an underaged defendant, much less sentence him to death, but the court stated that Hübener had shown more than average intelligence for a boy his age. This, along with his general and political knowledge, and his behaviour before the court, made Hübener, in the court's eyes, a boy with a far more developed mind than was usually to be found in someone of his age. For this reason, the court stated, Hübener was to be punished as an adult.
"Hübener's lawyers and his mother, and the Berlin Gestapo appealed for clemency in his case, hoping to have his sentence commuted to life imprisonment. In their eyes, the fact that Hübener had confessed fully and shown himself to be still morally uncorrupted were points in his favour. The Reich Youth Leadership (Reichsjugendführung) would have none of it, however, and stated that the danger posed by Hübener's activities to the German people's war effort made the death penalty necessary. On 27 October 1942, the Nazi Ministry of Justice upheld the Volksgerichtshof's verdict. Hübener was only told of the Ministry's decision at 1:05 p.m. on the scheduled day of execution and beheaded at 8:13 p.m.
"[Mormon] Church reaction
"Hübener was arrested by German authorities and two days later was excommunicated by local authorities of the LDS Church. When the church leadership in the U.S. was informed of the excommunication, they revoked it. Hübener was posthumously reinstated in the LDS Church in 1946, with the note "excommunicated by mistake",[2] because the specific process required for excommunication from the LDS Church was not followed by Arthur Zander, Hübener's local church leader at the time.
"Zander was a fervent member of the Nazi Party, even to the extent of affixing notices to the church door stating 'Jews not welcome.' He had attempted to protect others of his religious group and thus had excommunicated the young man, but in his haste and likely fear, had done so without proper authority, without first obtaining his district president's permission.
"That district president was Otto Berndt, who, in fact, was sympathetic to Hübener and was suspected of assisting and encouraging the boy. Berndt was soon after questioned by the Gestapo and released with an ominous warning: 'After Jews, you Mormons will be next.'
"The day of his execution, Hübener wrote to a fellow branch member, 'I know that God lives and He will be the Just Judge in this matter . . . I look forward to seeing you in a better world!" — from a letter written by Hübener, the only one believed to still exist
(For criticism of this above wiki excerpt as being too pro-Mormon, see the following website: http://www.exmormonforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1176&start=0&st=0&sk=t...)
Below is a critical take from that site on Mormon Church spin regarding LDS-Nazi relations:
"A movie is currently being filmed about the Helmuth Huebner story. Haley Joel Osment has an uncanny resemblance to young Helmuth.
"Helmuth, was a 17 year old German, who happened to be a member of the Church. In the trailer for the film it talks about him " being taught to follow the truth" which of course to save their necks, the Church excommunicated him.
"Interesting, in the book, 'Why I Believe," the new German Apostle [Dieter F. Uchtdorf] . . . makes mention of Helmuth being a member of the Church and opposing the Nazi's and Hitler but no mention of the Church having excommunicated the young boy.
"What concerns me is that the production company has a Provo, Utah address.
"I'm wondering if the Church is rewriting history again to tell this black eye story in a way that makes Helmuth look like a faithful Latter-day Saint when the fact of the matter is that he defied the local Church leaders, had to think for himself to do as he did. And in the end, the Church members wanted nothing to do with him and followed their protocol by excommunicating him which I wonder if they'll make any mention of in the film.
"It'll be interesting to see the movie."
(Author: "Life Rocks," Post subject: "Truth and Reason, Helmuth Huebner story," Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:18 p.m._
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Plus, below is a synposis of the Mormon Church-in-Germany's attempts at cooperation and co-existence with the Jew-killing Third Reich:
"Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2001 11:54 am Post subject:
"I just posted something on the Recovery board about the LDS Church in Nazi Germany. I found this information on a Swiss website dedicated to the Church in Switzerland mainly, but also the other German-speaking countries. It is a pro-LDS site, not anti.
"If you read German, you can read it yourself:
"Click on the title page
"Click on Kirchengeschichte
"Click on Geschichte der Kirche in der Schweiz
"Click on 1900-2000
"Click on 1931-1940
"scroll down to 1934. I can´t get a link to work directly to that page.
"If you don´t read German, I have translated it for you.
"REMEMBER, THIS IS A PRO-LDS WEBSITE - NOT AN ANTI SITE!
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"1931-1940
"The dark shadows of the Nazi regime in Germany began to grow larger and eventually settled on the Church with its organizations. On January 9, 1934 the Reich leadership forbid any further distribution of the brochure 'Divine Authority' within Reich borders. On May 1, 1934 the Reich youth leadership forbid all scouting organizations, including the Boy Scouts of the Church. In various areas of Germany the dissemination of religious materials was forbidden. On July 11,1935 in the city of Elbing the book “Articles of Faith” by James E. Talmage was banned – all copies of the book in the city had to be burned.
"Brown Shirts were increasingly attending meetings of the Church in order to find out what doctrines were being preached there. Hymns in which 'Israel' is mentioned were forbidden and could no longer be sung. Church activities were in part seriously hindered or curtailed, and persecution of missionaries increased.
"The Church considers itself an adoptive part of the covenant people of the Lord, a branch grafted to the family tree of the House of Israel. This made it very difficult for the German members to deal with the new situation, resulting in a continual conflict of loyalty between religious conviction on the one hand, and loyalty to the State, as stated in the 12th Article of Faith, on the other. Mission president Philemon M. Kelly expressed it in his report for the year 1935 as follows: 'The adjustment to the Jewish Problem is cause for serious concern. The people are cautious in what they say, in order to avoid irritating the authorities.'
"The leaders of the Church tried to maintain good relations with the Reich government. The president of the East German Mission, Alfred C. Rees, accomplished a lot in this respect. On April 14, 1939 an article written by President Rees appeared in the 'Völkischen Beobachter' ('Nationalistic Observer'), the official Nazi newspaper. The article was without a doubt advantageous for the Church at the time, but when considered today, it contains passages which are both shocking and shameful.
"The degree to which the Church was identifying itself more and more with the Nazis went too far even for the Party. When the previously mentioned article by Rees was published as a brochure, with a swastika prominently displayed along with the name of the Church, the brochures had to be recalled, because the Party was against having the Church´s printed materials appear with a swastika. The Party took offense, because someone could have thought that the Party was approving of some American religious sect.
"This at times almost over-eager approach to adjust to the Nazi regime caused the Church in Germany to be criticized by some, certainly not without justification. The issue of maintaining understanding and communication with countries ruled by dictatorships (when one is both in the country and outside the country) versus sealing off the borders, is at any rate a very difficult one, and is not totally objective, as was also later shown in the case of East Germany.
"Most of the members tried to adjust to the situation somehow. However, there were LDS members who were ardent members of the National Socialist Party (and not just in Germany and Austria).
"The following comes from a letter from Max Zimmer, which appeared in the the Deseret News on November 24, 1945: 'Paul Kayser proved to be a true father of the Saints in Alsace. In the first two years of the German occupation he had a difficult time as the branch president in Strassburg, because many of the presiding brethren were 100% Nazis who tried, during their visits to the branch, to preach National Socialism instead of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. The Saints were admonished, both at home and in church meetings, to pray for the Fuhrer, and to consider him called of God. They said Hitler would prepare the world for the United Order.'
"These brethren must have said some very stupid things, and the members did not always know what the Church´s actual stand was. Many had the impression, that we as a Church were in favor of National Socialism. They tried to reconcile the Nazi salute with the teachings of the Church, and to prove that the Nazi Party was organized according to the way the Church was organized. They said that the Fuhrer was like the president of the Church, and we should obey him. The SS was compared with the Melchisedek priesthood, and the SA (brownshirts) with the Aaronic priesthood. The Gau leaders were compared with stake presidents, district and neighborhood leaders with home teachers, etc. It was good that Brother Kayser was there. He did not let himself get converted to National Socialism, but rather held to the iron rod and finally was able to get the brethren to leave him alone and let him lead his branch in the right way.
"Some members were in open opposition to Hitler and his followers. During the year 1941, four young members of the Church were arrested in Hamburg for high treason. They had decided to print and distribute to the public pamphlets with information that they had heard from British radio broadcasts.
"Helmuth Huebner designed pamphlets with titles like 'What happened to General Schoemer, the army commander in Serbia?.' 'Hitler, the Murderer,' and 'The Hitler Youth which we must join.' He and his friends put them in mailboxes, in telephone booths and even posted them on the offical Party bulletin boards. The four of them were tried at the federal court in Berlin. Helmuth Huebner, also known as Helmuth Gudat, was sentenced to death and beheaded by guillotine in the Berlin-Ploetzensee prison. Rudolf Wobbe was sentenced to 10 years, Karl-Heinz Schnibbe to 5 years, and Gerhard Duwer to 4 years in prison. Brother Huebner demonstrasted in these fateful days remarkable courage and wrote in a very moving letter to his family: 'I only have 2 hours left. Then I must appear before my God.'
"Under pressure from the Party, Brother Huebner was excommunicated from the Church (the Huebner case cased the Church in Hamburg serious distress, because Brother Huebner had used the Church-owned office equipment to create and print his pamphlets.) Huebner´s excommunication was rescinded by the First Presidency on January 24, 1948 - he was restored to full fellowship in the Church."
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"I thought you guys might find this interesting. I will just leave it with no comment at the moment.
("Jiggs," Posted Wed Aug 15, 2001 11:54 am, "The Church in Nazi Germany," at "New Order Mormon," http://forum.newordermormon.org/viewtopic.php?p=187&sid=92b83b81d095b0d0de...)
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Exhibit A in this regard: Monson's diabolical dance with East Germany's devil and Soviet-backed henchman, Erich Honecker.
RAG
Steve, what do you know about Armand Hammer and the Mormons?
I knew someone working for Rex Lee as Solicitor General and they were working closely with Armand Hammer on what sounded like business matters and seemed to find no problem with his extensive communist ties. Interesting.
schweizerkind
Uh oh . . . looks like they've sanitized it . . .
I followed the link, but it looks like they've severely shortened the history section, and it has nothing about collaboration with the Nazis.
Down-the-memory-hole-again-ly yrs,
S
snowball
There's a new wall
After 2 years experience now the "Mauer im Kopf" (wall in the head) keeps most "Ossie" Germans from taking time to have their questions about the LDS Crutch explained. Tom's grand achievement is a total bust.
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Re: If You Think the Berlin Wall Fell Because of the LDS Church, You've Fallen for the Big Mormon Lie, Brought to You by Tom Monson and LDS, Inc.: Money-Mad Monson's Dance with the Communist Red Devil . . .
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