I am grateful for the clean-the-Mormon-chapel idea

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This was a December, when nobody wanted to sign up, the most Mormons had done their duty for the year more than once, the jackmos just ignored the sign up sheet and the rest were busy Christmas shopping. I had to clean the chapel on a few December days and I resented it. I was so mad I turned to google for answers. I wanted to find others out there who were as mad as I was. I was tired of hearing the \'we all use the bathrooms\', \'it is a privilege to clean\', \'if we all pitch in we only have to do it once a year\', \'the funds are sacred\'. Yeah right, the building was filthy and those of us who cared were putting several hours to clean it. That is on top of all the cleaning up we did after activities, which again was the same people.</p>\n<hr />\nCarol Y.<br />\nI can say the same. The very first week I was signed up to clean, I found RFM.\n<hr />\n<p>Devoted Exmo<br />\nRe: I am grateful for the clean-the-chapel idea...<br />\nCongratulations on figuring it out and getting out. I share the same belief that this single thing is going to be a straw that breaks the camels back for so many people, because it\'s beyond the pale.</p>\n<hr />\nguynoirprivateeye<br />\nRe: I am grateful for the clean-the-chapel idea...<br />\nBravo!\n<hr />\nCA girl<br />\nRe: I am grateful for the clean-the-chapel idea...<br />\nHappy for you - and glad you had the courage to research and take a stand. Too many lesser people would have just stood there and taken it. Ditto on that Bravo! comment.\n<hr />\nforbiddencokedrinker<br />\nRe: I am grateful for the clean-the-chapel idea...<br />\nIf Steve Benson is reading this, I want to know how the Tabernacle cleaning schedule works. How often do the apostles take turns cleaning the chapel floors? We all know Uchtdorf, being one of those weird Germans, probably happily scrubs the toilets. Wait, does the tabernacle have toilets? Anyways, how many times a year do the big 15 have to clean the tabernacle, or that new meeting hall across the street?\n<hr />\ncl2<br />\nI don\'t know how the people tolerate it<br />\nWe got out before the cleaning duties began. My ex worked his way through college cleaning an lds church in Rexburg, Idaho, then his dad took over (or they wouldn\'t have been able to survive).\n<p>My TBM daughter has never been asked to clean, for which she is grateful.</p>\n<p>My late 70s, early 80s aunt and uncle clean the conference center, the Jordan River temple.</p>\n<hr />\nguynoirprivateeye<br />\nRe: I am grateful for the clean-the-chapel idea...<br />\nTBM Mormons don\'t understand, don\'t appreciate the Irony of their situation.\n<hr />\nLeah<br />\nRe: I am grateful for the clean-the-chapel idea...<br />\nActually, no one can \"make\" anyone clean the chapel.\n<p>People just need to learn to say NO loud and clear, without further explanations.</p>\n<p>The same goes for working in that godawful church nursery.</p>\n<p>If church leaders insist that such work needs to be done by members, they can do it themselves.<br />\nLet them come in each week with their own families and jump to it - no one will stop them, lol.</p>\n<hr />\nLeah<br />\nRe: I am grateful for the clean-the-chapel idea...<br />\nHahaha are you kidding?\n<p>Germans bring in guestworkers to do the jobs Germans won\'t do.</p>\n<p>Uchtdorf would not be caught dead scrubbing toilets or emptying trash cans.</p>\n<hr />\nforbiddencokedrinker<br />\nRe: I am grateful for the clean-the-chapel idea...<br />\nAccording to my apostate mother, the Nursery was the best calling she ever had in the church. None of the babies ever gave her a guilt trip about what she wore, or insisted that their views on birth control were the only possible right views.\n<hr />\n<p>Carol Y.<br />\nI loved the nursery. I got to be with my toddler, and eat snacks when I wanted, take off my shoes, etc.&nbsp;</p>\n<hr />\n<p>Raider<br />\nRe: which again was the same people.<br />\nYou will find in any large organization that uses voluntary labor to due any task you will suffer S.T.P. SAME TEN PEOPLE.</p>\n<hr />\nkarin<br />\nHey! I\'m german and i do not like to clean toilets.<br />\nIn fact, i ignored the whole \'clean the church\' thing as i felt that tithing money covered cleaning. No way was i going to clean (except after an activity, that makes sense) AND pay money. I had enuf of my brains left intact to see the disgustingness of that idea.\n<hr />\nkarin<br />\nI too, loved being nursery leader.<br />\nThe room did not stink. The children were not running free. I had a program, schedule and happy children (except when a new baby was introduced to nursery)\n<p>I could leave the door open and none of the kids would run out.</p>\n<p>The kids didn\'t care what i wore, how \'happy\' i looked that day, how high my standing in the ward wasn\'t.</p>\n<p>All they cared about was to play, sing and be cared about.</p>\n<hr />\nsteve benson<br />\nAll the apostles do in terms of cleaning is to purge Mormon church history.\n<hr />\n<p>ginger<br />\nRe: I am grateful for the clean-the-chapel idea...<br />\nHere\'s to more toilet cleaning leading TBMs to RfM in the near future!</p>\n<hr />\nguynoirprivateeye<br />\nRe: I am grateful for the clean-the-chapel idea...<br />\nControl - Compliance; candidates for the Particles of Faith!\n<hr />\n<p>Can\'t Resist<br />\nRe: I am grateful for the clean-the-chapel idea...<br />\nWe took $150 out of our tithing to pay a lady in our neighborhood, who needed the work, to take our cleaning assignment. It didn\'t go over well. I\'ll spare y\'all the details but apparently my family\'s cleaning assignment was intended to \"sanctify\" us. Thus, we were \"encouraged\" to take another week. I guess sacrament just isn\'t enough. Nothing is ever enough. I\'m so done...</p>\n<hr />\n<p>ambivalentmo<br />\nRe: I am grateful for the clean-the-chapel idea...<br />\nAre you f-ing kidding me? They were upset because you</p>\n<p>a. Helped ease someones burden by offering a hand up, not a hand out</p>\n<p>b. respected the church enough to hire a professional, who is probably more knowledgeable about proper cleaning procedures for public restrooms than the average joe mormon.</p>\n<p>actually, I am so pissed right now I cannot even finish.</p>\n<p>WTF is WRONG with these robots??????????????</p>\n<p>\"Recovery from Mormonism - www.exmormon.org\"</p>\n', created = 1495668576, expire = 1495754976, headers = '', serialized = 0 WHERE cid = '2:47868adfa3f7f36ce2529638192a31d8' in /home/exmormon/public_html/d6/drupal/includes/cache.inc on line 112.

deconverted2010 Apr. 2012

Thank you LDS cheapos, I would have never found the things I did about the church, had I not been looking for sympathetic ears to my resentment to clean the building and see the custodians retire or let go (I knew two of them personally). Thank you for letting me clean that December, as I did I kept on thinking why would the church be so cheap to let go of the custodians. That thinking led me to Google which led me to so much information I never knew existed. This all let me out. Maybe they were the best invested two or three hours of my life. =)

Being in charge of the voluntary cleaning crew for one month, I was to pretty much make sure it was done and ended up doing whatever was not done myself. This was a December, when nobody wanted to sign up, the most Mormons had done their duty for the year more than once, the jackmos just ignored the sign up sheet and the rest were busy Christmas shopping. I had to clean the chapel on a few December days and I resented it. I was so mad I turned to google for answers. I wanted to find others out there who were as mad as I was. I was tired of hearing the 'we all use the bathrooms', 'it is a privilege to clean', 'if we all pitch in we only have to do it once a year', 'the funds are sacred'. Yeah right, the building was filthy and those of us who cared were putting several hours to clean it. That is on top of all the cleaning up we did after activities, which again was the same people.


Carol Y.
I can say the same. The very first week I was signed up to clean, I found RFM.

Devoted Exmo
Re: I am grateful for the clean-the-chapel idea...
Congratulations on figuring it out and getting out. I share the same belief that this single thing is going to be a straw that breaks the camels back for so many people, because it's beyond the pale.


guynoirprivateeye
Re: I am grateful for the clean-the-chapel idea...
Bravo!
CA girl
Re: I am grateful for the clean-the-chapel idea...
Happy for you - and glad you had the courage to research and take a stand. Too many lesser people would have just stood there and taken it. Ditto on that Bravo! comment.
forbiddencokedrinker
Re: I am grateful for the clean-the-chapel idea...
If Steve Benson is reading this, I want to know how the Tabernacle cleaning schedule works. How often do the apostles take turns cleaning the chapel floors? We all know Uchtdorf, being one of those weird Germans, probably happily scrubs the toilets. Wait, does the tabernacle have toilets? Anyways, how many times a year do the big 15 have to clean the tabernacle, or that new meeting hall across the street?
cl2
I don't know how the people tolerate it
We got out before the cleaning duties began. My ex worked his way through college cleaning an lds church in Rexburg, Idaho, then his dad took over (or they wouldn't have been able to survive).

My TBM daughter has never been asked to clean, for which she is grateful.

My late 70s, early 80s aunt and uncle clean the conference center, the Jordan River temple.


guynoirprivateeye
Re: I am grateful for the clean-the-chapel idea...
TBM Mormons don't understand, don't appreciate the Irony of their situation.
Leah
Re: I am grateful for the clean-the-chapel idea...
Actually, no one can "make" anyone clean the chapel.

People just need to learn to say NO loud and clear, without further explanations.

The same goes for working in that godawful church nursery.

If church leaders insist that such work needs to be done by members, they can do it themselves.
Let them come in each week with their own families and jump to it - no one will stop them, lol.


Leah
Re: I am grateful for the clean-the-chapel idea...
Hahaha are you kidding?

Germans bring in guestworkers to do the jobs Germans won't do.

Uchtdorf would not be caught dead scrubbing toilets or emptying trash cans.


forbiddencokedrinker
Re: I am grateful for the clean-the-chapel idea...
According to my apostate mother, the Nursery was the best calling she ever had in the church. None of the babies ever gave her a guilt trip about what she wore, or insisted that their views on birth control were the only possible right views.

Carol Y.
I loved the nursery. I got to be with my toddler, and eat snacks when I wanted, take off my shoes, etc. 


Raider
Re: which again was the same people.
You will find in any large organization that uses voluntary labor to due any task you will suffer S.T.P. SAME TEN PEOPLE.


karin
Hey! I'm german and i do not like to clean toilets.
In fact, i ignored the whole 'clean the church' thing as i felt that tithing money covered cleaning. No way was i going to clean (except after an activity, that makes sense) AND pay money. I had enuf of my brains left intact to see the disgustingness of that idea.
karin
I too, loved being nursery leader.
The room did not stink. The children were not running free. I had a program, schedule and happy children (except when a new baby was introduced to nursery)

I could leave the door open and none of the kids would run out.

The kids didn't care what i wore, how 'happy' i looked that day, how high my standing in the ward wasn't.

All they cared about was to play, sing and be cared about.


steve benson
All the apostles do in terms of cleaning is to purge Mormon church history.

ginger
Re: I am grateful for the clean-the-chapel idea...
Here's to more toilet cleaning leading TBMs to RfM in the near future!


guynoirprivateeye
Re: I am grateful for the clean-the-chapel idea...
Control - Compliance; candidates for the Particles of Faith!

Can't Resist
Re: I am grateful for the clean-the-chapel idea...
We took $150 out of our tithing to pay a lady in our neighborhood, who needed the work, to take our cleaning assignment. It didn't go over well. I'll spare y'all the details but apparently my family's cleaning assignment was intended to "sanctify" us. Thus, we were "encouraged" to take another week. I guess sacrament just isn't enough. Nothing is ever enough. I'm so done...


ambivalentmo
Re: I am grateful for the clean-the-chapel idea...
Are you f-ing kidding me? They were upset because you

a. Helped ease someones burden by offering a hand up, not a hand out

b. respected the church enough to hire a professional, who is probably more knowledgeable about proper cleaning procedures for public restrooms than the average joe mormon.

actually, I am so pissed right now I cannot even finish.

WTF is WRONG with these robots??????????????

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