Posted by Carlos on August 05, 1998 at 18:08:32:
In Reply to: You pay the bill... posted by MEYER on August 05, 1998 at 15:37:43:
MEYER said:
In my Philosophy, creation doesn't necessarily mean Creator. You claim to want scientific "facts" yet you don't believe in a creation? All the facts point to a creation, ask Hawking. Once you get to the moment of the Big Bang science stops. It is your Faith that you based your belief on if you don't believe in a creation.
You haven't done a very good job of explaining your philosophy. You use the term "creation" as if it can be separated from "creator" - it can't. "Creation" requires (or at least strongly implies) "creator". In that sense, you have misrepresented Hawking, who believes in a beginning, not a creation.
Or maybe you believe in a creation event, but don't believe in a creator. But, then again that is your faith deciding that. What evidence does science have that points to a non-existence of a creator?
The burden of proof is on those who assert the existence of a creator to prove it, not on scientists to prove the negative.
{snip invective directed at rpcman}
You have been posting here for a few days. Have you read the archives? Have you looked at rpcman's site? I will be charitable and assume you have done neither, because no one who had could make the kind of accusations you made.